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<trackbot> Date: 09 February 2012
<scribe> ScribeNick: adrianba
<scribe> Scribe: Adrian Bateman
ACTION-207?
<trackbot> ACTION-207 -- Paul Cotton to confirm that change proposal for av_param is still active -- due 2012-02-07 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/207
paulc: i think we can close this
action item - intent was to double check that proposal was
still operative
... chairs are working with WG and Web & TV IG and the
chairs will decide when to push to the next step
... i will register this in the action item
rubys: none
rubys: none
rubys: Alternate or Counter Proposals due Feb 11, have none
ISSUE-172?
<trackbot> ISSUE-172 -- restore <rb> as an optional element -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/172
rubys: Change Proposals due Feb 11, have one
ISSUE-131?
<trackbot> ISSUE-131 -- Should we add a caret location API to canvas, or is the focus API sufficient? -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/131
ISSUE-183?
<trackbot> ISSUE-183 -- Enhance and simplify the time element -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/183
ISSUE-184?
<trackbot> ISSUE-184 -- Add a data element -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/184
rubys: Alternate or Counter Proposals due Feb 11, have one:
ISSUE-179?
<trackbot> ISSUE-179 -- {audio,video} require param child (or equivalent) -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/179
rubys: Change Proposals due Feb 15, have one
ISSUE-193?
<trackbot> ISSUE-193 -- Remove CSS example that promotes inaccessible content -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/193
rubys: Change Proposals due Feb 15, have none
ISSUE-194?
<trackbot> ISSUE-194 -- Provide a mechanism for associating a full transcript with an audio or video element. -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/194
ISSUE-195?
<trackbot> ISSUE-195 -- Enhance http request generation from forms -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/195
ISSUE-196?
<trackbot> ISSUE-196 -- Define user agent http response handling behaviour -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/196
ISSUE-197?
<trackbot> ISSUE-197 -- Accept attribute should allow file extensions in addition to the current allowed values -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/197
rubys: Alternate or Counter Proposals due Feb 15, have none
ISSUE-182?
<trackbot> ISSUE-182 -- Advice in spec about annotations promotes inaccessible content -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/182
ISSUE-188?
<trackbot> ISSUE-188 -- Text tracks in HTML should be defined in a way agnostic of the specific caption format -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/188
ISSUE-189?
<trackbot> ISSUE-189 -- Prefix convention needs to be coordinated with IETF -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/189
rubys: Alternate or Counter Proposals due Feb 15, have one
ISSUE-185?
<trackbot> ISSUE-185 -- Drop the pubdate attribute -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/185
rubys: Change Proposals due Feb 15, have none
ISSUE-198?
<trackbot> ISSUE-198 -- Ensure innerHTML and related APIs are subject to the W3C patent policy -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/198
ISSUE-199?
<trackbot> ISSUE-199 -- Define complete processing requirements for ARIA attributes -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/199
ISSUE-200?
<trackbot> ISSUE-200 -- Allow wrapping LEGEND (or new iLEGEND) in non-FIELDSET elements -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/200
ISSUE-201?
<trackbot> ISSUE-201 -- Provide canvas location and hit testing capability to fallback content -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/201
ISSUE-202?
<trackbot> ISSUE-202 -- Missing alt should not be considered conforming in the presence of figcaptions over 50 words in length -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/202
rubys: Change Proposals due Feb 16, have none
ISSUE-203?
<trackbot> ISSUE-203 -- All Media Elements should have the ability to have both short and longer textual descriptions associated to the element -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/203
rubys: important that we get CP for these issues - if we don't get proposals the issues will be deferred to html.next
janina: a11y tf thinks issue 203
should be considered after issue 30
... since one depends on the other
... you need both an alt text and a longdesc for the media
element - this is separate from the poster that it may
have
... we in good shape on the alt but not on the longdesc because
we don't yet know which mechanism we will end up with for
that
rubys: are you suggesting the deadline moved after?
janina: yes, to start after the longdesc question is resolved
paulc: are you asking that we don't process 203 before 30 or that we delay calling change proposals
<rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0098.html
janina: delaying change proposals
call because the only thing that could be proposed is used
longdesc or described by that we're talking about in 30
... CP will be to apply that mechanism to the video tag
paulc: could you write the CP
saying using the solution from issue 30
... then all we have to make sure we don't come to a decision
on 203 before 30
rubys: before the deadline?
janina: yes
... if that kind of conditional proposal is acceptable then
this is reasonable
paulc: suggest that you get this into the CP and ask for explicit permission from chairs
rubys: none
rubys: none
ISSUE-177?
<trackbot> ISSUE-177 -- References to Internet-Drafts should be given as "Work in Progress" per RFC 2026. -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/177
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0065.html
rubys: published decision, editor has applied the change
krisk: met as planned last week 31 jan
<krisk> Meeting Notes -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-testsuite/2012Feb/0000.html
krisk: no new bugs, some new
tests from Ms2ger
... some discussion about the a11y and aria mapping testing and
kris will follow-up with cynthia and a11y tf
janina: very busy, number of
change proposals coming is large
... we have a reconsideration request on meta generator
... task force decision on that now
rubys: review of issue 30
proposal
... mjs posted review
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0058.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0064.html
rubys: next up is split issue
30
... discussion started on the mailing list
... if there are two parts disagreement about whichto do
first
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0067.html
rubys: discussions ongoing
janina: is there agreement on what the 2 parts are?
rubys: i think so
... my understanding is the aria question is split out from
whether longdesc is deprecated
... active discussion, lots of emails in last 24/48 hours
... Revert request for r6895
... this has been applied
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0066.html
rubys: Saturday is the deadline for change proposals for New Information
<rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0082.html
rubys: this post describes
exactly what is needed
... April face-to-face meetings for HTML and WebApps
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0057.html
plh: in order to help wg make
progress, a f2f would be good
... especially in april for html wg
... now question is dates with conferences we don't want to
overlap with
... ended up with second week in april
... we are aware that this is easter monday so some people will
have to travel on that day, also end of passover
... unfortunate but unless more objections will continue since
only alternative is may
... which doesn't work for html wg timeline
... don't yet have a host - looking for a host
... want to block dates next week and confirm meeting as soon
after that as possible
rubys: Open Web Platform Weekly Summary - 2012-01-23 - 2012-01-29
http://www.w3.org/QA/2012/01/openweb-weekly-26.html
rubys: any volunteers?
paulc: my turn to chair next week
rubys: thanks everybody
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