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<oliver> I hear mostly static on the phone, any one hears more?
<mscottm2> I'm getting "this passcode is not valid"
<Lena> probably because there's more than 10 users
<Lena> ericP: can we get a bigger "room" ?
<mscottm2> 4257 is the right code, non?
<matthias_samwald> yes
<matthias_samwald> ericP is working on it
sometimes there's a backup when lots of people dial in at once
so try again
we have a res for 30
<Lena> skype is also an option ;)
<oliver> or evo ;)
<Lena> but not integration with w3c cool stuff
<epichler> or google phone
<oliver> be back in five minutes
<Lena> eric asks who is having trouble dialing in
<epichler> might have been me
<epichler> I'm on mute now
<amrapaliz> im trying to call now
<oliver> ok, i'm back
<amrapaliz> yes, please +49 341 97-32367
<michel> http://www.w3.org/wiki/HCLSIG/Organization
<scribe> scribenick: ericP
michel: [reviews the organization chart]
-> http://www.w3.org/wiki/HCLSIG/Organization organization chart
michel: this subtle re-org is
intended to bring together task forces which need to
coordinate
... and to bring engage TF members' organizations
... hoping to hear feedback from y'all
<Lena> +1
matthias_samwald: i like it a
lot
... far more streamlined
... the organization around a single telecon per week is a good
idea
... when i was trying to work on several task forces, it was
difficult to dial in many times per week for potentially
redundant calls
michel: is it your preference to
have just one meeting?
... i expect the other meetings may occur, but they may change
in frequency and focus
matthias_samwald: this can be
left to the task forces
... i've also been a fan of discussions via email and google
groups
... i haven't found the coordination of the phone calls
completely necessary
ericP: please be mindful of visibility on public-semweb-lifesci@w3.org
michel: periodically, task forces
should post on the mailing list
... sending an update to the list before the monthly call could
help folks understand which calls would be interesting to
them
<Lena> ericP: we have a wiki that should be used
michel: we record minutes via IRC
-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-semweb-lifesci/ public-semweb-lifesci mail archive
michel: can we search the archives?
ericP: [after saying stupid stuff] yes, note the search box in the archive pave
michel: we have an opportunity to
redevelop the task force messages
... the TF leads should try to keep the TF pages pretty
clear
<Lena> +1
<Lena> ericP: create a map of the data
<michel> +1
<JoanneLuciano> That sounds like Eric P speaking.
ericP: [pitch for data maps]
<matthias_samwald> http://neuroscientific.net/res/ismb2007/poster-under-construction.png
<JoanneLuciano> Hi Michel! Sorry to be late. I had to juggle 2 meetings to get on just now.
matthias_samwald: i created a data map during the first iteration of the HCLS IG
<mscottm2> From Matthias: http://neuroscientific.net/res/ismb2007/poster-under-construction.png
<Lena> (i need to go in a few mins)
JoanneLuciano: i did a graphic of how the task forces were covering data spaces
ericP: [pitch for using hypertext, a la <http://www.w3.org/wiki/HCLSIG/Organization>, for the data map]
michel: we're targeting people
who are working at e.g. pharmas, biotechs, health care, to give
us feedback
... would like to draw a recruitment/speaker list
... will create a googledoc
<michel> http://goo.gl/nB68I
ericP: wiki?
michel: conflict resolution better in google doc
epichler: do we want them to participate or ...? [scibe got behind]
michel: to bring us to end
users
... so when we do stuff, we can ping them when we produce stuff
relevent to their interests
... they might not be in the TF, devoting time to it, but part
of the larger community
epichler: do they need to be
members to steer us?
... are they committed to HCLS vs. SemWeb tool providers
... was hard to allocate resources to W3C
... OTOH, in a large company, if you want to do a project, you
arrive with specific requirements, test cases, etc.
... that's a level above just listening to stories
<mscottm2> I just lost contact with Zakim via Matthias's skype.
<mscottm2> back again but I don't hear anyone speaking
<mscottm2> be there in a minute..
<matthias_samwald> i (plus scott) dropped out, now back again.
ericP: [discussion with JoanneLuciano about grants]
charlie: coming from clinical
trials, we could really benefit from SemWeb, and don't even
know what can happen
... IMI project is starting to understsand
<JoanneLuciano> i have to follow up off-line, but I am willing to work on this and will follow-up with whoever is intersted. I apologize that this time slot didn't work for me today. I'm also VERY interested in the IMI project i the UK.
charlie: ONC is still quite
naieve about SemWeb
... there's a fundamental disconnect between folks approaching
from UML pathways and those coming from Ontologies
... would like these communities to understand to the sweet
spot between UML, OWL, and latent semantic indexing
<JoanneLuciano> Also, if any of you can make it to Boston for CSHALS -- this is the conference specifically on SEMANTICS in Health Care and Life Science.
charlie: would like HCLS to educate the community
michel: we've accumulated a lot
of knowledge and experience in building SemWeb apps
... folks don't know how to do that well
... how to build linked data is still burried in
publications
... web-based tutorials would help
... would like to connect linked life data which fits into the
larger semantic web
... also, new relationships with organizations
... NCI, NCBI, OpenPHACTs, etc.
... reflect their use cases in our activities
... encourages them to participate and commit resources towards
shared resources
... we have to make sure our tools, techs and DBs are
accessible
... we create one-offs
... we need to make sure our resources are available
long-term
... JoanneLuciano raised the issue of funding and these
activities need folks who are dedicated to maintenance
<mscottm2> Oops!
ericP: [discussed looking at externally-created ontologies and data]
mscottm2: CDC would benefit from
and app to @@1
... UK gov't approachable
... SAGE Bionetworks has a similar set of goals and missions,
though not necessarily using SemWeb
... we should engage with them
... e.g. help them create a SPARQL endpoint for Synapse
... shouldn't HCLS response to research works act?
... (the move by publishers to put publicly resources behind a
paywall)
<iker> +1 Michel's opinion
<mscottm2> :)
michel: next tuesday Life Siences domain (per <http://www.w3.org/wiki/HCLSIG/Organization>)
<mscottm2> Thanks again Matthias for connecting me to Zakim via skype.
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