Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference -- 02 Feb 2012

<trackbot> Date: 02 February 2012

<BenediktKaempgen> \me also connected through skype

<DeirdreLee> mhausenblas, I must be P26 or 53

<olyerickson> zakim mute me

<Mike_P> can folks mute their phones

<scribe> scribenick: mhausenblas

<cgueret> Zakim I'm on the phone too

<George> PROPOSAL: The GLD WG decides to publish 'Terms for describing people' in the first batch of FPWD by end of Feb 2012

FPWD

Michael: available via https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/people/index.html

<rreck> rreck

<rreck> i just joined

<olyerickson> I looked at the draft/proposal; very good!

<olyerickson> I thought mhausenblas' "Terms for describing people" a good step forward

Michael: Tried to focus on UC to determine scope and then we can figure what is in scope

<olyerickson> zakim unmute me.

olyerickson: good start, Michael, UC help

<cgueret> +1

George: agreed

<cgueret> fantastic :)

<olyerickson> zakim mute me.

<dvilasuero> great job mhausenblas

<dvilasuero> +1

<olyerickson> +1 to proposal

<George> +1 to proposal

<boris> +1

<dvilasuero> +1 to proposal

<sandro> +1

<BenediktKaempgen> +q

<Yigal> zakim aaii is me

<csarven> +1

RESOLUTION: The GLD WG decides to publish 'Terms for describing people' in the first batch of FPWD by end of Feb 2012

<olyerickson> Everything we're doing is currently "subject to revision"

People UC

https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/people/index.html

<olyerickson> Comment: These are use cases appropriate to our government context

<cgueret> +q

Michael: Tried to identify UC from real-world apps or datasets
... Tried to derive requirements from it

<cgueret> -q

BenediktKaempgen: where to contribute

Michael: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Terms_for_describing_people

<olyerickson> what happened?

<sandro> cygri, you brought a loud tone with you.

<cygri> sorry. my voip thingy crashed. hope it didn't take zakim with it

George: any immediate input for the People ED?

<BenediktKaempgen> +q

Michael: I guess for the FPWD we should focus on the UC and req - will also cover existing vocabs review

<olyerickson> I think the aspects that will be very useful will be people w.r.t. agencies

<olyerickson> zakim mute me.

BenediktKaempgen: How do you know if we cover the most interesting UC

<sandro> cygri, still the loud tone.

<cgueret> :)

<olyerickson> Examples would be (a) elected representatives (b) officials at agencies

<cygri> i'll redial.

<cygri> olyerickson, this is a software phone.

<olyerickson> zakim unmute me.

George: dataset driven seems useful

olyerickson: two kinds of people and relations
... (a) elected representatives (b) officials at agencies
... also need to check re ORG vocab re instance data

<olyerickson> zakim mute me.

<cygri> oh well.

<cygri> regarding where use cases come from:

<cygri> a good use case is something that you or your organization want to do anyways

<cygri> and that would benefit from, or be enabled by, a standard vocabulary

<cygri> e.g., for ORG:

<olyerickson> ACTION: olyerickson to follow-up on "elected officials" and "agency officials" concern [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/02/02-gld-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-46 - Follow-up on "elected officials" and "agency officials" concern [on John Erickson - due 2012-02-09].

<cygri> “we want to publish an organigram of our government in machine-readable form so that different ppl can visualize it in different ways”

<olyerickson> zakim mute me.

Michael: We're trying to standardise the behaviour of publishers, hence should be driven by stuff that exists out there

<sandro> gatemezi, I think there was talking in the background where you are.

cygri: Best UC are the ones that are done or planned and require a standardised way to represent it
... for example, for QB, take some spread sheets, need to publish, etc.

Michael: I agree with Richard

<cgueret> +1 to move to next topic

<olyerickson> I have nothing to add. Note that I added an action for myself...

DCAT Product status review/discussion

<cygri> zakim you eejit. i'm still on the call

<olyerickson> RE "roles," see http://www.epimorphics.com/public/vocabulary/org.html#roles

George: https://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/products/2

<olyerickson> DCAT ED: http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/dcat/index.html

<cygri> ACTION-38?

<trackbot> ACTION-38 -- Phil Archer to convert editors' draft of DCAT to make use of respec -- due 2012-02-02 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/38

<cygri> ACTION-39?

<trackbot> ACTION-39 -- Richard Cyganiak to update http://vocab.deri.ie/dcat to point to the new dcat ED -- due 2012-02-02 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/39

<cygri> ACTION-40?

<trackbot> ACTION-40 -- Phil Archer to reflect on SEMIC advice on vocab selection etc. to see if there is more to contribute to the BP doc -- due 2012-02-02 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/40

<olyerickson> Issue 10 maybe?

<olyerickson> zakim unmute me.

<gatemezi> +1 to closing an issue with a resolution

Michael: we should close issues only with the recorded resolution

<cgueret> +1 to cygri

<boris> +1 to richard

<gatemezi> +1 to have a special meeting on DCAT for those issues...

cygri: we should prepare issues along with proposal

<DanG> +1 to richard

<olyerickson> No objection

George: shall we start discussing issues?

<cygri> +1 to olyerickson, this would be great!

John: the DCAT team should come up with proposals for the issues

<George> +1 to olyerickson

Multilingualism of vocabs

<olyerickson> ACTION: DCAT team to propose resolutions to issue-2, issue-3 and possibly others to appear on next GLD call agenda [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/02/02-gld-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - DCAT

<olyerickson> ACTION: olyerickson to corral DCAT team to propose resolutions to issue-2, issue-3 and possibly others to appear on next GLD call agenda [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/02/02-gld-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-47 - Corral DCAT team to propose resolutions to issue-2, issue-3 and possibly others to appear on next GLD call agenda [on John Erickson - due 2012-02-09].

<dvilasuero> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/images/4/4a/MultilingualismGLD%28v4%29.pdf

<olyerickson> zakim mute me.

Elena: From UPM, working on EC project http://www.monnet-project.eu/

<olyerickson> zakim mute me.

<olyerickson> ZAKIM mute me.

(Elena walks us through the slides and highlights certain issues)

<cygri> zakim why u hate me

Elena: it is not possible to link the labels, for example, this is the translation of the other
... better than ad-hoc solution is LEMON, developed in Monnet

<olyerickson> Slide?

<olyerickson> ok slide 14

<sandro> hmmmm. does this mean we stop using RDF language tags...? is language just another sense?

<sandro> (or context)

<gatemezi> @thanks mhausenblas

<gatemezi> Is there any link of the lexical model you are talking about?

<gatemezi> Could we advice govn't to *always* import in their vocab the lexical model for the translation of their vocab?

<sandro> on slide 22, I wonder if it's really "medio de page"@es or if language tags aren/t used (since they are basically redundant with lemon)

<cygri> sandro, it's still an utterance in a particular natural language, so @es is still appropriate

<olyerickson> re: "isCulturalEquivalentTranslationOf" ...wow, what a concept!

<sandro> I agree, cygri -- just wondering if the lemon folks agree.

<sandro> sure, mhausenblas

<cygri> ok sandro

<olyerickson> +1 to fascinating!

<gatemezi> Thanks Elena!!

<dvilasuero> great talk elena

<PhilA2> Very interesting, Elena

George: interesting work, there is a liaising opportunity

olyerickson: thanks Elena, we've been thinking about this in RPI as well in the context of international datasets

<Biplav> Thanks Elena!

olyerickson: the extensibility is an important aspect

DanG: seems to me that you're using the concept as the pivot
... right approach, IMO

<cygri> if there's time, can someone ask if the ontolex community has an opinion on translating URIs (as opposed to labels/literals)?

George: thanks again, Elena

<olyerickson> +1 to babies ;)

<PhilA2> Apologises for being absent for so much of the call - glad I caught Elena

<PhilA2> go Dan1!

dvilasuero: volunteer to scribe next week

<dvilasuero> i'd like to volunteer for scribing nexxt week

<olyerickson> PhilA see Elana's slides

(meeting adjourned)

<BenediktKaempgen> thanks george

<gatemezi> Thanks all!

<DanG> bye

<fadi> bye

<rreck> thanks

<BenediktKaempgen> bye

<PhilA2> Thanks olyerickson I did

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Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference

02 Feb 2012

Attendees

Contents

FPWD

People UC

DCAT Product status review/discussion

Multilingualism of vocabs

Summary of Action Items

Scribe.perl diagnostic output