24 Jan 2012

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Plh, Judy, David_MacDonald, Cooper, Janina_Sajka


<scribe> scribe: janina

<MichaelC> drop item 16

<MichaelC> drop item 17

confirm assignees and timelines for text-related change proposals needed

jb: Noting that Meta-Generator and Title are old CP's that we need to forward as soon as ready

janina: Thinks may have Feb 11 deadline as reconsideration requests. We should confirm -- or simply complete

Meta Generator is


<Judy> Janina's new draft input: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2012Jan/0239.html

Title is at:


<Judy> jb: we need to discuss meta generator updated draft input today.

<Judy> jb: we were supposed to review and discuss draft title attribute issue today; didn't; need to before next week's meeting.

<MichaelC> Note this change proposal is not yet linked from http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals

<MichaelC> also missing from http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Accessibility_Change_Proposal_Status

michael: Noting that neither the HTML-WG nor the TF Wikis correctly point to Title CP v.2

janina: I'll ask Steve to follow up

judy: Also want to gather additional CPs due in Feb that come out of Bug Triage escalations

The HTML-A11Y Task Force Wiki is at:


janina: Look for open issues with numbering beginning in the high 100's

<Judy> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Accessibility_Change_Proposal_Status

judy: Looking for text related and assigning a person
... #193 CP to Steve. Steve, OK?

review updated proposal on meta name generator

<Judy> re-reading updated http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposal/meta_name%3Dgenerator_does_not_make_missing_alt_conforming

<Judy> re-reading new draft input: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2012Jan/0239.html

judy: suggests dropping "all" or saying "most"

janina: rather drop "all"

judy: say WCAG2
... suggest expanding the corelation statement, followed by no justification

janina s/no justification/no justification sentence/

additional update on longdesc steps and timeline

judy: Thanks PLH for joining to discuss community concerns recently raised re longdesc reconsideration
... We've heard chairs are working through the various longdesc cp's but no firm date for moving forward
... anything further than can be said re expected steps and timelines?

plh: Aplogizing for delay in dealing with this. It is an important issue.
... It is on a critical path, Maciej responded on list
... Chairs do have a tentative date, but they're still working toward an agreement re the existing 3 cps
... Hope is to move forward "extremely fast."
... Apologizing again for the delay, but noting this is a top priority item for us

<Judy> js: Philippe I was wondering about Laura's question or assertion that Jonas and Ian might in the meantime be working on another approach? Do you have any thoughts about whether there might be work going on in the background?

<Judy> plh: I don't know about that; that would be new information to me and possibly to the Chairs if so.

<Judy> js: would be important to know

judy: PLH, would be good to check with Chairs whether they know anything on this as well

<Judy> jb: Janina if you have more info (any links?) on that could you please let us know; and Philippe can you check in with the Chairs on that?

<plh> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/DeprecateLongdesc

<Judy> plh: re-looking at Jonas' proposal...

judy: Noting end of time for today, suggest full discussion on longdesc and its timeline next Text call next Tuesday

<Judy> jb: would like to have a more thorough review of the status of the longdesc issue next tuesday, re-inviting Philippe, and Maciej or other Chairs

<plh> "It would be fine, however, to use the ARIA aria-describedby attribute to refer to descriptions that are themselves hidden. "

<Judy> jb: thanks for joining, Philippe

group agrees to strike last plh comment as no time for discussion/correction

<David> I have to drop off.... see you...

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