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<scribe> ScribeNick: ArtB
<scribe> Scribe: Art
Date: 10 January 2012
AB: I posted a draft agenda
yesterday
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webevents/2012JanMar/0001.html.
Cathy sent regrets and asked that her topic be deferred. We
won't do a deep dive but I'll take some general comments.
... any other change requests?
AB: any short announcements for today?
AB: Doug, what is the status of the PAG for Apple's patent disclosures http://www.w3.org/2004/01/pp-impl/45559/status#current-disclosures?
DS: we are discussing timing for the PAG
… I think we need to start a PAG
… think it will be started before the end of the month
… perhaps within a week or two
AB: any questions for Doug?
<mbrubeck> http://www.opensource.apple.com/source/WebCore/WebCore-7533.20.24/dom/TouchEvent.idl
DS: it is possible for us to use a different touch model e.g. what Microsoft implemented
AB: there is also a proposal that Sangwhan said he would submit
DS: are other people open to the idea of using a different model?
… want to know if people would change their implementation
MB: I think we would be open to implementing another model
… I think the question is whether there would be other mobile vendors that would use it
OP: which windows model are you referring to Doug?
DS: WP 7
AB: yes, we would be interested in looking at other models
… having a RF standard for touch events is really important for the OWP
… Perhaps the PAG will ask the WG for alternate proposals
DS: I don't think the PAG should make such a request because it kinda means they have ruled the patents are applicable
… I think the WG should look for alternatives
AB: yes, good point
… is there an action for you or me or someone else?
DS: I think everyone should ask internally about this
AB: I agree
AB: Sangwhan said he would submit
an alternate Touch Event proposal
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webevents/2011OctDec/0151.html
... we won't discuss this today since Sanghwan isn't here
AB: On December 21, Cathy
announced
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webevents/2011OctDec/0158.html
her 1st draft at test assertions for the TEv1 spec http://www.w3.org/2010/webevents/wiki/TestAssertions
... I don't want to do a deep dive today without Cathy present
but we can take some general comments
... I haven't looked at Cathy's work in detail
<smaug> "503 Service Unavailable"
AB: in December, I proposed we
follow the test directory structure used by WebAppsWG
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webevents/2011OctDec/0160.html.
Our scenario is a little bit different because we are using the
webevents Hg root http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/webevents
for both specs and tests, whereas WebApps only puts tests in
its Hg root http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/webapps
and its specs have their own Hg root.
... any comments on the proposed structure?
MB: looks OK to me
OP: OK
DS: looks fine to me
<scribe> ACTION: barstow implement the testing directory structure proposed in December [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/01/10-webevents-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-92 - Implement the testing directory structure proposed in December [on Arthur Barstow - due 2012-01-17].
AB: any other topics for
today?
... what's that status on the IndieUI WG charter, Doug?
… it would be good to start work on the Intentional Events spec
DS: I'm not sure but will look into it
… and I'll send an update to the list
AB: excellent
DS: I agree with Art that it would be good to get something going on that spec
AB: let's plan to have a call next week
… and I'll cancel if there aren't sufficient topics
DS: are we still going on with tests or waiting for the PAG?
AB: one topic for next week is Cathy's test assertion table
… and I presume that should give us a better sense of the set of tests needed for the TEv1 spec
… So, I think we should continue with tests
DS: yeah (agree)
AB: meeting adjourned
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