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close ACTION-82
<trackbot> ACTION-82 Invite mike or set up supplementary call to discuss progress on IRI closed
close ACTION-84
<trackbot> ACTION-84 Add to rb bug that we don't want to escalate closed
close ACTION-85
<trackbot> ACTION-85 Add to rb bug a summary of what we discussed at TPAC and conclusions arising and next steps closed
richard: any questions about what was in the email?
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2011OctDec/0086.html
richard: if you have questions or comments, please send to list
richard: haven't put up wiki page
yet; will try to this week
... need to try to agree something with Ian by 31 December
felix: Ian understands use case
for @translate
... had a comment to that effect
<fsasaki> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12417#c52
richard: <rb> has until end of december for agreement
koji: do you think the wiki does the job?
richard: not complete yet, I think... needs more work
<r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Rb
koji: maybe need to focus
... can live without rtc for now so long as door not
closed?
richard: if you have rbc
... rb is necessary if you have rbc
... because rbc is container for rb elements
... but can you do complex ruby without rbc, perhaps by
nesting?
<ruby> <ruby>base<rt>note-above</rt><rt>note-below</rt></ruby></ruby>
richard: ruby base replacement
case can't be done without <rb>
... fantasai had other cases
... one parenthesis (rp) for multiple bases
<ruby> base<rt>note</rt>base-2<rt>note-1</rt></ruby>
<kojiishi> http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/text-level-semantics.html#the-ruby-element
An rt element that is a child of a ruby element represents an annotation (given by its children) for the zero or more nodes of phrasing content that immediately precedes it in the ruby element, ignoring rp elements.
<ruby> base<rt>note1</rt><rt>note2</rt></ruby>
koji: fallback from multiple bases within a paren
<kojiishi> http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/grouping-content.html#the-dl-element
koji: should spec be clearer?
<rt> is phrasing content, so "note2" could be ruby on "note1"
<ruby> base<rt>note1</rt><rt>note2</rt></ruby>
scribe: so don't know how to draw that
<scribe> ACTION: richard: update ruby wiki and post to list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/12/14-i18n-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-86 - Update ruby wiki and post to list [on Richard Ishida - due 2011-12-21].
richard: I'll update bug and ping Ian
next meeting on 21st December