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<trackbot> Date: 01 December 2011
<scribe> ScribeNick: hober
ACTION-207?
<trackbot> ACTION-207 -- Paul Cotton to confirm that change proposal for av_param is still active -- due 2011-12-01 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/207
<pimpbot> Title: ACTION-207: Confirm that change proposal for av_param is still active - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
rubys: paul not able to make the
call today
... will push the action back a week
ACTION-208?
<trackbot> ACTION-208 -- Michael[tm] Smith to sync up with Peter St. Andre on URL processing draft and report back in two weeks -- due 2011-12-01 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/208
<pimpbot> Title: ACTION-208: Sync up with Peter St. Andre on URL processing draft and report back in two weeks - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
<rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Nov/0194.html
<pimpbot> Title: "How Browsers Process URLs" aka "URL processing spec": HTML WG deliverable or I18N WG deliverable? from Michael[tm] Smith on 2011-11-21 (public-html@w3.org from November 2011) (at lists.w3.org)
<MFoladare> MFoladare is 7323681000 from AT&T
rubys: MikeSmith not on call,
public status update linked above
... we'll close this action
ISSUE-172?
<trackbot> ISSUE-172 -- restore <rb> as an optional element -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/172
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-172: restore as an optional element - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
rubys: was raised prematurely, re-resolved and raised again
ISSUE-182?
<trackbot> ISSUE-182 -- Advice in spec about annotations promotes inaccessible content -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/182
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-182: Advice in spec about annotations promotes inaccessible content - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
ISSUE-183?
<trackbot> ISSUE-183 -- Enhance and simplify the time element -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/183
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-183: Enhance and simplify the time element - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
ISSUE-184?
<trackbot> ISSUE-184 -- Add a data element -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/184
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-184: Add a data element - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
ISSUE-185?
<trackbot> ISSUE-185 -- Drop the pubdate attribute -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/185
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-185: Drop the pubdate attribute - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
rubys: same underlying bug being pursused as three different issues
ISSUE-174?
<trackbot> ISSUE-174 -- potential conflict between Link: and <link> semantics -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/174
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-174: potential conflict between Link: and semantics - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
rubys: call for counter proposals closed
ISSUE-181?
<trackbot> ISSUE-181 -- remove remains of "sidebar" link relation -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/181
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-181: remove remains of "sidebar" link relation - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
rubys: got one proposal
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Nov/0192.html
<pimpbot> Title: Change Proposal for ISSUE-181, was: ISSUE-181: remove-sidebar - Chairs Solicit Proposals from Julian Reschke on 2011-11-20 (public-html@w3.org from November 2011) (at lists.w3.org)
ISSUE-179?
<trackbot> ISSUE-179 -- {audio,video} require param child (or equivalent) -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/179
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-179: {audio,video} require param child (or equivalent) - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
rubys: Change Proposals due by
today
... related to ACTION-207
<glenn> nothing new from me (179)
ISSUE-177?
<trackbot> ISSUE-177 -- References to Internet-Drafts should be given as "Work in Progress" per RFC 2026. -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/177
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-177: References to Internet-Drafts should be given as "Work in Progress" per RFC 2026. - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
ISSUE-180?
<trackbot> ISSUE-180 -- Add "allow-popups" for iframe@sandbox -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/180
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-180: Add "allow-popups" for iframe@sandbox - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
rubys: Alternate or Counter Proposals due for both of them by Dec 10
ISSUE-133?
<trackbot> ISSUE-133 -- Add a modal attribute to html5 to indicate a modal segment of the DOM (modal dialog) -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/133
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-133: Add a modal attribute to html5 to indicate a modal segment of the DOM (modal dialog) - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
rubys: Call for Consensus closes
Dec 7
... we have an updated CP that it looks like we'll have
consensus on
ISSUE-172?
<trackbot> ISSUE-172 -- restore <rb> as an optional element -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/172
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-172: restore as an optional element - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
rubys: Call for Change Proposals
closes Jan 7
... additional time given due to holidays
ISSUE-174?
<trackbot> ISSUE-174 -- potential conflict between Link: and <link> semantics -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/174
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-174: potential conflict between Link: and semantics - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
rubys: Call for Consensus closes Dec 7
ISSUE-181?
<trackbot> ISSUE-181 -- remove remains of "sidebar" link relation -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/181
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-181: remove remains of "sidebar" link relation - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
rubys: Call for Counter or Alternate Change Proposals closes Jan 7
ISSUE-182?
<trackbot> ISSUE-182 -- Advice in spec about annotations promotes inaccessible content -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/182
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-182: Advice in spec about annotations promotes inaccessible content - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
rubys: Call for Proposals closes Jan 7
ISSUE-183?
<trackbot> ISSUE-183 -- Enhance and simplify the time element -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/183
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-183: Enhance and simplify the time element - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
ISSUE-184?
<trackbot> ISSUE-184 -- Add a data element -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/184
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-184: Add a data element - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
ISSUE-185?
<trackbot> ISSUE-185 -- Drop the pubdate attribute -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/185
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-185: Drop the pubdate attribute - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
rubys: Call for Proposals on all three closes Jan 7
<tantek> what was the feedback?
rubys: we have proposals on all
three, feedback has been posted for them
... feedback was posted on the list
... links to feedback are in the agenda
<tantek> thanks hober
rubys: there are none
rubys: there are none
Open Web Platform Weekly Summary (2011-11-14 to 2011-11-20)
http://www.w3.org/QA/2011/11/openweb-weekly-20.html
<pimpbot> Title: Open Web Platform Weekly Summary - 2011-11-14 - 2011-11-20 - W3C Blog (at www.w3.org)
<rubys> http://www.w3.org/QA/2011/11/openweb-weekly-21.html
<pimpbot> Title: Open Web Platform Weekly Summary - 2011-11-21 - 2011-11-28 - W3C Blog (at www.w3.org)
rubys: Dec meeting schedule
... no meeting on dec 29th
... otherwise dec. weekly meetings will proceed as normal
ack Julian:
Julian: do we have an update about the status of the html wg / whatwg specs being out of sync?
rubys: we are actively working
it
... chairs are meeting tomorrow (friday) on this
... jeff jaffe is aware of this
... we're looking at 9 separate ways to deal with this
... we don't have a resolution yet, but it is a priority for us
to deal with
... any other other business?
tantek: looking at 3
<time>-related issues mentioned
... fourth issue didn't get recorded
<tantek> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Nov/0186.html
<pimpbot> Title: Re: noted 3 issues re: time/data (was Re: minutes for HTML WG f2f, 2011-11-04, part 1) from Tantek Çelik on 2011-11-19 (public-html@w3.org from November 2011) (at lists.w3.org)
tantek: sam had noted the enhancements hixie made to <time> were beyond the original proposal
<tantek> in short:
<tantek> 4. Enhance the time element to fully represent the date time types
<tantek> that the input element can capture. Most of these are also covered by
<tantek> issue 1, with the exception of year-week only dates and thus this is a
<tantek> delta issue from that issue with a corresponding delta change
<tantek> proposal:
<tantek> http://www.w3.org/wiki/User:Tantekelik/time_input_match
<pimpbot> Title: User:Tantekelik/time input match - W3C Wiki (at www.w3.org)
rubys: happy to include this in the first issue, or as a new issue
tantek: fewer issues are
better
... talked about this at f2f
... i'd prefer to keep this separate, since the first issue got
at least rough consensus at the f2f
rubys: we did get pushback on the list from people not at the f2f
tantek: on that specific issue (year-week)
rubys: not sure
tantek: the pushback i saw on-list was primarily related to pubdate="" and <data>
rubys: i'll get back to you
<Zakim> tantek, you wanted to mention 4th issue related to time
rubys: any volunteers?
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