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HTML Weekly Teleconference

17 Nov 2011

Attendees

Present
dsinger, kimberly, Sam, Janina_Sajka, Julian, Radhika_Roy, eliot, krisk, Mike, +1.417.671.aabb, Cynthia_Shelly
Regrets
Chair
rubys
Scribe
rubys

Contents


<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14709] user agent lang tag handling is insufficiently specified <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Nov/0594.html>

<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14709] user agent lang tag handling is insufficiently specified <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Nov/0595.html>

<pimpbot> planet: dknite: Flash enhancements on Firefox Android Native <11http://dknite.wordpress.com/2011/11/17/flash-enhancements-on-firefox-android-native/> 4** JoeStagner: 60 Days as a Linux user by a recovering Windows Guy. <11http://www.misfitgeek.com/2011/11/60-days-as-a-linux-user/>

<pimpbot> planet: JoeStagner: Weekly Links– 2011_36 (50 for Web Devs & Other Geeks) <11http://www.misfitgeek.com/2011/11/weekly-links-2011_36/>

<pimpbot> planet: Jesper Kristensen: Firefox/Gecko Delivery Meeting Minutes: 2011-11-16 <11http://blog.mozilla.com/meeting-notes/archives/709>

<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14850] New: make unicode-bidi:isolate default for flow elements with a dir attribute too <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Nov/0596.html>

<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14851] New: Add seek() function for non-exact (fast) seeking <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Nov/0597.html> 4** [Bug 14851] <video> Add seek() function for non-exact (fast) seeking <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Nov/0598.html>

<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14851] <video> Add seek() function for non-exact (fast) seeking <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Nov/0599.html>

<pimpbot> planet: Robert Nyman: Mozilla Hacks Weekly, November 17th 2011 <11http://hacks.mozilla.org/2011/11/mozilla-hacks-weekly-november-17th-2011/>

<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14853] New: The variable 'node' in the example function 'processClick' is never defined anywhere <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Nov/0600.html>

<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11482] WF2: Change accept="" to accept file extensions as well as MIME types (maybe based on whether they start with a period) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Nov/0601.html>

There was no call for scribes in the last telecon, so I am without a volunteer. Anybody willing to scribe?

trackbot, start meeting

<trackbot> Date: 17 November 2011

still looking for a scribe...

<krisk> +Microsoft is krisk

<scribe> scribenick: rubys

ACTION items due by Thursday, November 17

action-205?

<trackbot> ACTION-205 -- Paul Cotton to contact the TAG [noah, jeni] to find out the status of the html data tf -- due 2011-11-17 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/205

<pimpbot> Title: ACTION-205: Contact the TAG [noah, jeni] to find out the status of the html data tf - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)

close action-205

<trackbot> ACTION-205 Contact the TAG [noah, jeni] to find out the status of the html data tf closed

ACTION-208?

<trackbot> ACTION-208 -- Michael[tm] Smith to sync up with Peter St. Andre on URL processing draft and report back in two weeks -- due 2011-11-18 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/208

<pimpbot> Title: ACTION-208: Sync up with Peter St. Andre on URL processing draft and report back in two weeks - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)

mike: we are still working on this, I'll change the due date. We have a call set up with the i18n working group for next week

action-208 due in 2 weeks

<trackbot> ACTION-208 Sync up with Peter St. Andre on URL processing draft and report back in two weeks due date now in 2 weeks

New Issues This Week

rubys: there are none

Items Closed Last Week

issue-179?

<trackbot> ISSUE-179 -- {audio,video} require param child (or equivalent) -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/179

<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-179: {audio,video} require param child (or equivalent) - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)

action-207?

<trackbot> ACTION-207 -- Paul Cotton to confirm that change proposal for av_param is still active -- due 2011-12-01 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/207

<pimpbot> Title: ACTION-207: Confirm that change proposal for av_param is still active - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)

issue-133?

<trackbot> ISSUE-133 -- Add a modal attribute to html5 to indicate a modal segment of the DOM (modal dialog) -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/133

<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-133: Add a modal attribute to html5 to indicate a modal segment of the DOM (modal dialog) - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)

rubys: we haven't declared consensus yet, no objections but no consensus

ISSUE-164?

<trackbot> ISSUE-164 -- remove or modify hgroup -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/164

<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-164: remove or modify hgroup - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)

rubys: call for consensus failed, we have a number of proposals

ISSUE-170

rubys: the next step is for the chairs to review the proposals

Items Closing This Week

rubys: there are none

Items Closing Next Week

issue-174?

<trackbot> ISSUE-174 -- potential conflict between Link: and <link> semantics -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/174

<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-174: potential conflict between Link: and semantics - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)

rubys: we have yet to receive a counter proposal

issue-181?

<trackbot> ISSUE-181 -- remove remains of "sidebar" link relation -- raised

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/181

<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-181: remove remains of "sidebar" link relation - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)

rubys: we have yet to receive a proposal

New Calls this week

rubys: none

New Surveys this week

rubys: none

Decisions this week

rubys: none

Testing Task Force

<krisk> Group met as planned on Nov 15th, we meet again on 29th

<krisk> Meeting notes -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-testsuite/2011Nov/0018.html

<pimpbot> Title: RE: HTML Testing Task Force Conf Call Agenda 11/15/2011 from Kris Krueger on 2011-11-17 (public-html-testsuite@w3.org from November 2011) (at lists.w3.org)

<krisk> HTML5 bidi test submissions - new activity http://w3c-test.org/html/tests/submission/html5bidi/br/br-bidi.html

<pimpbot> Title: HTML Test: BR separates bidi paragraph (at w3c-test.org)

<krisk> Discussion about ES5 dependant changes made to testharness.js

<krisk> need to get clarity from 'fritz' on his push back

<krisk> ...really this is to support webidl testing

<krisk> One new bug file on a canvas (http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=14421)

<pimpbot> 1114421: benwells, P2, NEW, 13Possible error in canvas Philip test 2d.path.stroke.prune.arc

Accessibility Task Force

mike: the biggest thing is needing to progress on LongDesc

rubys: the next step is for chairs to provide written feedback to the remaining two proposals, after which there will be an opportunity for the authors of the various proposals to make final updates. If two or more proposals still remain, the next step would be a survey

Other Business

http://www.w3.org/QA/2011/11/openweb-weekly-19.html

<pimpbot> Title: Open Web Platform Weekly Summary - 2011-11-07 - 2011-11-13 - W3C Blog (at www.w3.org)

time, date, and pubdate

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Nov/0094.html

<pimpbot> Title: noted 3 issues re: time/data (was Re: minutes for HTML WG f2f, 2011-11-04, part 1) from Tantek Çelik on 2011-11-10 (public-html@w3.org from November 2011) (at lists.w3.org)

rubys: it was hoped that we would find that on at least one of those issues we would not find contention, but at the present time it looks like there will be contention on all three
... people interested in the topic should join the discussion on the list

Scribe for next meeting

rubys: any volunteers?
... we should not have a meeting on thanksgiving, so the next meeting would be december 1st.

Adjournment

Summary of Action Items

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