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HTML Weekly Teleconference

10 Nov 2011

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Chair
Maciej Stachowiak
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rubys

Contents


<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12393] Add "allow-popups" for iframe@sandbox <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Nov/0416.html>

<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12393] Add "allow-popups" for iframe@sandbox <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Nov/0419.html> 4** [Bug 12393] Add "allow-popups" for iframe@sandbox <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Nov/0418.html> 4** [Bug 12393] Add "allow-popups" for iframe@sandbox <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Nov/0417.html>

<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14740] title attribute definition does not match reality <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Nov/0420.html>

<pimpbot> planet: Janet Swisher: insertAdjacentHTML() Enables Faster HTML Snippet Injection <11http://hacks.mozilla.org/2011/11/insertadjacenthtml-enables-faster-html-snippet-injection/> 4** Robert: On The Future Of Flash <11http://robert.accettura.com/blog/2011/11/09/on-the-future-of-flash/>

<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14337] Drag-and-drop / undo manager interaction <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Nov/0422.html> 4** [Bug 14337] Drag-and-drop / undo manager interaction <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Nov/0421.html>

<pimpbot> planet: Jesper Kristensen: Firefox/Gecko Delivery Meeting Minutes: 2011-11-09 <11http://blog.mozilla.com/meeting-notes/archives/703>

<MikeSmith> issue-179?

<trackbot> ISSUE-179 -- {audio,video} require param child (or equivalent) -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/179

<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-179: {audio,video} require param child (or equivalent) - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)

<MikeSmith> action-200?

<trackbot> ACTION-200 -- Kris Krueger to add reftest handling in the test harness -- due 2010-11-12 -- CLOSED

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/200

<pimpbot> Title: ACTION-200: Add reftest handling in the test harness - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)

<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14750] New: Clarify what the origin of the new document is if the document is blown away (consider if the old document set document.domain) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Nov/0423.html>

<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14753] New: You guys succeed on this way. Abobe gave up in this. You are armed. <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Nov/0424.html>

<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14754] New: <track> rename cueAsSource to text for consistency <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Nov/0425.html>

<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14753] You guys succeed on this way. Abobe gave up in this. You are armed. <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Nov/0426.html> 4** [Bug 14747] mostrar tudo que tem <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Nov/0428.html> 4** [Bug 14738] Please add more canvas examples <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Nov/0429.html> 4** [Bug 14737] CANVAS is awesome!!!!

<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14762] New: Rename all callbackInterface.handleEvent methods to something which describes what the method is about <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Nov/0438.html> 4** [Bug 14761] New: Drop =FunctionOnly from everywhere else than interface Function <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Nov/0437.html> 4** [Bug 14760] New: Drop =FunctionOnly from NavigatorUserMediaErrorCallback <11

<pimpbot> planet: Robert Nyman: Mozilla Hacks Weekly, November 10th 2011 <11http://hacks.mozilla.org/2011/11/mozilla-hacks-weekly-november-10th-2011/>

<mjs> hello

trackbot, start meeting

<trackbot> Date: 10 November 2011

<paulc> Thank you

<Julian> PaulC, always doing my best :-)

<scribe> ScribeNick: rubys

ACTION items due by Thursday, November 10

ACTION-205?

<trackbot> ACTION-205 -- Paul Cotton to contact the TAG [noah, jeni] to find out the status of the html data tf -- due 2011-11-10 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/205

<pimpbot> Title: ACTION-205: Contact the TAG [noah, jeni] to find out the status of the html data tf - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)

Paulc: I contacted Jeni and Noah, and am working to get the response public. Please change the date to next week.

action-205 due next week

<trackbot> ACTION-205 Contact the TAG [noah, jeni] to find out the status of the html data tf due date now next week

ACTION-206?

<trackbot> ACTION-206 -- Sam Ruby to ensure the weekly telcon agendas contain a link to the latest post in karl's series -- due 2011-11-10 -- CLOSED

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/206

<pimpbot> Title: ACTION-206: Ensure the weekly telcon agendas contain a link to the latest post in karls series - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)

sam: the status of this action is CLOSED, you can see the link in the agenda

action-207?

<trackbot> ACTION-207 -- Paul Cotton to confirm that change proposal for av_param is still active -- due 2011-11-11 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/207

<pimpbot> Title: ACTION-207: Confirm that change proposal for av_param is still active - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)

paulc: I've been in negotiation with the person who made the change proposal, the bugs are being updated
... it is possible that the right action is to put the issue on hold
... please move this action 3 weeks

action-207 due in 3 weeks

<trackbot> ACTION-207 Confirm that change proposal for av_param is still active due date now in 3 weeks

New Issues This Week

maciej: there is no new issues, there is one bug marked tracker request. This is the bug for <time> and <data>. It may end up becoming multiple issues.

http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13240

<pimpbot> 1113240: ian, P2, RESOLVED FIXED, 13Consider replacing <time> with <data>

Items Closed Last Week

issue-180?

<trackbot> ISSUE-180 -- Add "allow-popups" for iframe@sandbox -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/180

<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-180: Add "allow-popups" for iframe@sandbox - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)

maciej: the call closed last week, we got a Change Proposal, so a call for counter proposals was issued

Items Closing This Week

issue-179?

<trackbot> ISSUE-179 -- {audio,video} require param child (or equivalent) -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/179

<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-179: {audio,video} require param child (or equivalent) - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)

maciej: change proposals are due tomorrow, we have received two proposals
... this was discussed extensively in TPAC, the details as to which specific points of extensibility are needed is not yet resolved.

issue-133?

<trackbot> ISSUE-133 -- Add a modal attribute to html5 to indicate a modal segment of the DOM (modal dialog) -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/133

<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-133: Add a modal attribute to html5 to indicate a modal segment of the DOM (modal dialog) - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)

<glenn> confirm i can withdraw CP 179 if progress made on specific av params

maciej: call for consensus closes tomorrow. Please feel free to either object or express support.

ISSUE-164?

<trackbot> ISSUE-164 -- remove or modify hgroup -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/164

<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-164: remove or modify hgroup - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)

maciej: the call for consensus received an objection and a new proposal. Steve reissued his withdrawn proposal. This call does not pass

ISSUE-170?

<trackbot> ISSUE-170 -- make URIs valid link relations -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/170

<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-170: make URIs valid link relations - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)

maciej: we have two change proposals for this issue, the deadline is two days for now
... questions, comments?

tantek: how long has the hgroup issue been extended?

maciej: the next step is for the chairs to review the proposals, and then to go for survey. There is no fixed amount of time left at this point.

Items Closing Next Week

maciej: none

New Calls this week

issue-177?

<trackbot> ISSUE-177 -- References to Internet-Drafts should be given as "Work in Progress" per RFC 2026. -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/177

<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-177: References to Internet-Drafts should be given as "Work in Progress" per RFC 2026. - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)

maciej: we have received one proposal, and have now issued a call for alternates

issue-180?

<trackbot> ISSUE-180 -- Add "allow-popups" for iframe@sandbox -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/180

<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-180: Add "allow-popups" for iframe@sandbox - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)

maciej: we have one proposal and have issued a call for counter proposals

sam: Ian has reopened the bug

maciej: this could lead to a consensus resolution, the bug should be re-closed in the meantime

New Surveys this week

maciej: none

Decisions this week

issue-178?

<trackbot> ISSUE-178 -- Don't include colon in examples of URI scheme names -- closed

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/178

<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-178: Dont include colon in examples of URI scheme names - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)

this issue was closed without prejudice as no change proposals were received

Other Business

http://www.w3.org/QA/2011/11/openweb-weekly-18.html

<pimpbot> Title: Open Web Platform Weekly Summary - 2011-10-31 - 2011-11-06 - W3C Blog (at www.w3.org)

maciej: as promised, we have linked to the summary in the agenda. Any interest in discussing any of those items?
... I encourage everyone to read the summary

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Nov/0011.html

<pimpbot> Title: Revert request for r6783 from Paul Cotton on 2011-11-03 (public-html@w3.org from November 2011) (at lists.w3.org)

maciej: I haven't had a chance to check its status. It still hadn't been done when I left work.
... the chairs did ask Mike Smith to execute the request, and we did get some private email from Ian asking that we adopt Tantek's proposal.

Mike: I need to be clear before we do the revert that the chairs agree that this is what the chairs want.

sam: please do the revert

paulc: +1

<anne> o_O

<tantek> rubys - I followed up with your email requesting identification of one or more issues re: time/data

maciej: go ahead and do the revert at this point

mike: OK

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Nov/0094.html

<pimpbot> Title: noted 3 issues re: time/data (was Re: minutes for HTML WG f2f, 2011-11-04, part 1) from Tantek Çelik on 2011-11-10 (public-html@w3.org from November 2011) (at lists.w3.org)

<tantek> thanks rubys, appreciated.

paulc: you divided the question into three separate parts?

tantek: yes

paulc: are the issues orthogonal?

tantek: there are some dependencies, but they are largely separable

paulc: the chairs will take a look at that

<anne> doing a revert in CVS is very unproductive

<anne> but I guess there's no means for me to object at this point?

paulc: anne has a comment in IRC

maciej: anne's comment will be in the minutes
... we are now adjourned

Summary of Action Items

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