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<scribe> Scribe: Gerald Steeman
<scribe> ScribeNick: GeraldSteeman
<BartvanLeeuwen> zakim ??p9 is me
<BartvanLeeuwen> ah now it works
<cgueret_home> hi there!
<rreck> is there some incantation to have zakim SIP you?
<Cory> Aakim, aaa is DanG
<PhilA> Hadley is on her way to California for TPAC
<BenediktKaempgen> BenediktKaempgen is connected through Skype
<Cory> Agenda item - update on OMG GovDTF and Information Sharing
PhilA: Vocabs on persons and business.
<bhyland> PhilA: Focusing on business & core persons. Vocabs already exist, e.g., FOAF. On address side, INSPIRE Directive is doing interesting work.
PhilA: not trying to reinvite and
will work with existing schemas
... TPAC small but successful
... hope to get interaction
Bhyland: MS and Google to be there.
<tinagheen> +1 minutes
Accept minutes: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2011.10.13
<bhyland> Review of Tracker, see http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/
<atemezin> is there any open issue?
<trackbot> ACTION-12 Archer to request member-only list closed
<Yigal> I do
Bhyland: Data Camp well
... interesting venue for camp
... Keynote speakers very high caliber <names?> in Open Gov
... centered transparency
... will blog on the camp. Link to come leter
... theme of blockers and supporters ran through the camp
<atemezin> do we have some feedbacks after @bhyland presentation?
<bhyland> Ellen Miller from the Sunlight Foundation spoke about the 5 year old, non-profit which is the "grand daddy of the online open government movement." The foundation takes direction from Justice Louis Brandeis' philosophy that "Sunlight is said to be the best disinfectant." Open government data dvocates and entrepreneurs included Tom Steinberg who described the power of proving simple information that benefits civic society. Tom shined some sunlight on wastefu
bhyland: Open Gov/data to improve lives
<rreck> the US does not explicitly charge for data, we implicitly pay for it (and probably too much). Explicit pay for data might direct it to be better aligned with needs
bhyland: In US academics and
smaller institutions not really present in research; Europe has
more funding to those communities.
... upshot - lots of smaller contributors.
... would like to see more promotion / help those on the inside of govt.
<bhyland> zakim who is speaking?
bhyland: people were not looking
to data.gov for guidance
... would like to show leadership in the community
... showed the community directory in two sessions.
Phil: outreach is important. Egov
Interest Group trying it as well.
... all comes done to individuals.
down nor done
Phil: target market is so scattered and you have to find them
<bhyland> PhilA: There are individuals who serve as catalysts. YOu have find those key people, some are on the call, some are in the eGov IG. We have to plug away and be very public.
Phil: keep plugging away and perhaps find smaller events.
<PhilA> GovCamp wiki http://govcamp.org/index.php/Main_Page
Bhyland: GeoSpatial camp was held in June. We should share what is going on at local levels.
<bhyland> PhilA: GovCamp Program has the most traction.
Bhyland: guidance and not sales at these events.
<atemezin> we are planning to organise such a local event here in France...
PhilA: Went to one at MS office; very good.
<bhyland> PhilA: UK Gov't new tech officer showed up to local UK GovCamp event who everyone wanted to know.
<bhyland> Biplav: How is the Asian "data.gov.xx movement" going?
Biplasv: What is the opinion of Asia in Open Gov/Data?
PhilA: I met a contact for the region.
<PhilA> Somnath Chandra of Department of Information Technology, Government of India is in the eGov IG
bhyland: Datagov (US) may have
contacts with India.
... Other sources with Africa.
<atemezin> here at ISWC, they presented us a chinees initiative
<bhyland> SimonWall: Australia had its first GovCamp event recently.
Simon: FirstGov Camp. Challege getting people aware of event.
Simon: agree with individual contacts comments.
<cgueret_home> +1 to publicize the directory
<atemezin> who's speaking?
<bhyland> SimonWall: Open Data movement didn't know the GovCamp event in Canberra was happening… what can we do to improve communication of these events?
<bhyland> cygri is speaking now
Richard: There is a map (linked) may be a good starting point.
<bhyland> PhilA: Follows local people who are involved in open gov communities using Twitter.
PhilA: Something that work is Twitter. I follow local community. One method.
<Cory> +1 for beer
<cgueret_home> beer evening doesn't work in Netherlands
PhilA: casual events (i.e beer) can work well too.
bhyland: David Eaves gave advice on putting on a hackathon.
<BenediktKaempgen> BenediktKaempgen has to run. ISWC closing.
bhyland: we are 5 months in the
WG. There is a void on getting information / help to those on
... govt individuals tend to want to get information published and available to public.
... we need to expand our community and fill the void.
<PhilA> It's really important
<bhyland> RE: Local organization of events, Check David Eaves wiki on opendataday.org
byland: Suggest organizing local hackathons.
<bhyland> BartvanLeeuwen: Netherlands have a group called "Hack the Government" they are the open gov't data people, sponsor many events around open data (not necessarily Linked Data).
Bart: NL has a group called Hack the Govt. They work to assist in getting information to public.
<bhyland> Bart: This Netherlands group is no longer allowed to call their events "hack" a thons
Bart: getting more min stream.
Bart: a contro name may be a good way to start.
<bhyland> I met Drs Imke Vrijling, Policy Advisor in Ministry of the Interior and Kingdom Relations
<bhyland> in the Netherlands.
<bhyland> Bart: Discussed attending government events & help them.
Bart: we should find ways to promote GLD within other groups.
<cgueret_home> +1 for attending hackatons and speak about the group!
<bhyland> 26-Nov-2011 Hack-a-thon event in Netherlands.
<cgueret_home> yup I'm here
Bart: 26 Nov there with be Hack the Govt. May try to speak there.
<atemezin> who is here'
<atemezin> who is speaking?
<bhyland> Cory: with his OMG hat on … there was a meeting recently. We're engaged in UML profile for NIEM.
Cory: There was a meeting
Information Sharing monday. Currenty engaged in UML profile.
... Need standards for info sharing equation
... Looking to make this international
bhyland: Please share background info.
<PhilA> The member mailing list is now active
bhyland: DERI meeting. Who will be able to make it? Chime in.
<tinagheen> I won't be able to travel
<Cory> Don't have budget for such travel
<Mike> we will not have travel funding
<Yigal> Still haven't decided
<PhilA> Hard to be sure but I'm hopeful of being there
<martin> I will try to be there
<tobo> 50 / 50 too
<boris> martin alvarez
<cgueret_home> Christophe: say, 70/30
<bhyland> Simon: 50/50%
<martin> thanks, Boris
Richard: Report on RDF F2F.
<Biplav> What happens if some people do not make it?
Richard: End up in Europe or US. And the attendance is swayed on way or the other.
<bhyland> Cygri: RE: RDF F2F, usually held in Europe or US, tendency to alternate. In the latest F2F held last month, we scheduled it for Boston area but also had common European meeting place in UK.
Richard: RDF had parallel meeting US and UK locations. It work fairly well to sync up.
<bhyland> Cygri: They had almost two F2F's happening in parallel in two locations, across the Atlantic. Had video hookup. Acknowledge that it will be hard to get travel for everyone to come to one place.
Richard: Perhaps there could be a east coast US 2nd location.
bhyland: Will send out a poll and
get working on logistics.
... time zone are still a challenge.
<cygri> +1 to canberra!
bhyland: please submit agenda items.
<simonWall> Bernadette is right - no problem for me finding useful meetings in Eruope or US, problem is getting there in the first place
Biplav: Would like to learn more about the F2F.
<bhyland> Gerald: NASA is involved in organizing seminar around scientific analysis & reporting. Having their bi-monthly meeting and Bernadette will be speaking on W3C GLD, other speakers will be talking about data sets starting with 1 star Linked Data moving up the data chain.
<bhyland> The talk is on November 3rd so I will not be here next week.
<bhyland> Biplav: Budget will always be a concern. Remote participation to be arranged.
<bhyland> Cygri: Remote participation is OK, not optimal, but better than nothing (Bern paraphrasing).
cygri: Will be opportunty to dial in. Not as nice as in person
<bhyland> Announcement: W3C TPAC next week 31-Oct to 4-Nov 2011.
<bhyland> • Jeanne Holme and Phil Archer will be running sessions on eGov IG 31-Oct to 1-Nov 2011. http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/F2F4, remote participation by GLD WG members is encouraged.
Mind daylight savings!
<simonWall> Looking forward to everyone coming off of summer time
<PhilA> Jeanne put the agenda together but I'm there in Sandro's absence
<simonWall> 2am here
<bhyland> Meeting adjourned.
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