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<Clarke> Do we have a volunteer for scribe?
Have not read the guidelines but can give a try
<Clarke> Thanks, Juhani - Kaz (the expert) is on the line and can help, right Kaz?
<Clarke> Kaz, can you match up the phone numbers? I'm not sure how to do that, and I don't think Juhani is either
No idea how to match with phone numbers
<Clarke> So Juhani, the basic thing is to identify the speaker followed by a colon, then take write the notes. An elipsis (...) identifies the comment with the same speaker. Any other tips, Kaz?
<kaz> [ that's fine, Clarke ]
Summary of f2f in Hollywood
Requirements targeted for TPAC
All the use cases went through, Clarke to put down reqs doc
Reqs assigned to working group in TPAC ?
Clarke: ... continues of the f2f reporting
HTML WG is a key group, new working group too ?
Jan: HTML working with video tag makes sense as focus group
Clarke: Key objective, get to browsers ASAP, HTML5 or HTML.next
Jan: Challenge to get serious response in W3C in a reasonable time for our input
Clarke: We engage as soon as possible, as much information to provide as possible
Jan: DRM discussed a lot, preparation is needed with topics like this
Clarke: CableLabs have lot of ideas and an opinion how to do ...
Jan: CableLabs to make a proposal of who is contributing and then ask contributors ...
Clarke: Other groups to propose as WGs ?
<igarashi> zakim +??p1 is igarashi
John Simmons: Discuss to narrow down reqs to key top level reqs
John: more success this way
<igarashi> zakim: +??p1 is igarashi
Clarke: will not which can't be done,
Shortlist of reqs in next few weeks
<Clarke> use case classification -http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/MPTF/MPTF_Discussions
Clarke: Discussions ... use cases , sub use cases with individual reqs ...
protection, adaptive streaming, ...
?, ...stereo video
No changes ... with one line reasoning ... be challenge if any issues
<Clarke> Requirements - http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/MPTF/MPTF_Requirements
Clarke: Requirements next to take bulk of disucssion today
Three catgories: delivery of TV services, adaptive streaming, protection
Go through one at time, consensus or more investigation needed, name people to study more if issues ... OK ?
timed text cue mapping
mapping with exisitgn standards, what to represent in existing timed text specificaiton
SCTE 35, SCTE-130, CableLabs-EISS, etc.) is mapped to timed text track cues.
Jan: how to take with HTML WG if no changes
John: W3C vs industry for efforts
industy fora efforts
Clarke: if no resons to do anything in W3C what could be another fora, to identify then
Jan: #39 Media transport mapping,
e.g., how to expose the timed text tracking and other
... W3C to be hands-off or be in collaboration with other bodies ...
Clarke: W3C directly, several countries maybe invovled, may be diffciult to track, ... informative document ... just being silent woulld be a problem
John: Take an action in Microsoft to discuss ... IBC discussions with broadcasters ...
<Clarke> ACTION: John to take task for finding good place for commonly referenced mapping document - asking Microsoft colleages [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/09/29-webtv-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-81 - Take task for finding good place for commonly referenced mapping document - asking Microsoft colleages [on John Simmons - due 2011-10-06].
Key Metadata Types: An ability to distinguish specific types of metadata should be added so that key metadata types can be handled appropriately by a User Agent.
Clarke: would benefit common understanding in W3C ... type to indicate signalling for interactive app, rather than generic type
as an example
Clarke: Repeats the question to all ...
Graham: ... ?
There is a bug report to HTML5 related to this topic ...
Kilroy: DASH approach ... identified different name spaces ... applied to different categories ....
ratings may vary in diffenrt territories ... as an example
allow description of tracks ... [missed the rest]
Clarke: Namespaces to solve all the issues ?
Kilroy: Define general categories
... localised description may be on BC system or
... DVB namespace registered by DVB ... another by W3C ...
Clarke: submitted bug covers this already ?
John: The bug does not probably as clearly as Kilroy what the requirement is ... might need to be updated ... or a new bug
Clarke: to take an action / note
on this issue ?
... Can we amend a bug in W3C ?
<Zakim> kaz, you wanted to ask the group about possible f2f meetings on accessibility (to be connected later)
<Clarke> ACTION: Clarke to talk with Bob about possibly ammending bug related to @kind per Kilroy's suggestions [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/09/29-webtv-minutes.html#action02]
Kaz: joint meetign with HTML group and DAP in TPAC ... bring the issue there
Clarke: Sound as a good
... any other groups to bring the reqs to ?
Kaz: WebAccessibility group
... Protocol format group ...
<kaz> protocol and formats working group
Kaz: also SVG WG and Multimodal Interaction WG
... ... Community group for captioning lead by David Singer to discuss too
Clarke: Anything else today ?
John: Schedule towards TPAC with weekly telcos ... sufficient to do the work ? ... longer calls needed ?
clarke: do the math of the time needed ... anyone unwilling to extend telco time ?
John: willing to work in flexible times on this ...
[great motocycle noise heard in the line ? ;-)]
Clarke to make a proposal
<Clarke> Kaz, can you finalize the notes and send a link?
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