<Clarke> Do we have a volunteer for scribe?

Have not read the guidelines but can give a try

<Clarke> Thanks, Juhani - Kaz (the expert) is on the line and can help, right Kaz?

<Clarke> Kaz, can you match up the phone numbers? I'm not sure how to do that, and I don't think Juhani is either

<Clarke> OK

No idea how to match with phone numbers

<Clarke> So Juhani, the basic thing is to identify the speaker followed by a colon, then take write the notes. An elipsis (...) identifies the comment with the same speaker. Any other tips, Kaz?

<kaz> [ that's fine, Clarke ]

Summary of f2f in Hollywood

Requirements targeted for TPAC

<JanL> +q

All the use cases went through, Clarke to put down reqs doc

Reqs assigned to working group in TPAC ?

<JanL> pq

<JanL> -q

Clarke: ... continues of the f2f reporting

HTML WG is a key group, new working group too ?

Jan: HTML working with video tag makes sense as focus group

Clarke: Key objective, get to browsers ASAP, HTML5 or HTML.next

Jan: Challenge to get serious response in W3C in a reasonable time for our input

Clarke: We engage as soon as possible, as much information to provide as possible

Jan: DRM discussed a lot, preparation is needed with topics like this

Clarke: CableLabs have lot of ideas and an opinion how to do ...

Jan: CableLabs to make a proposal of who is contributing and then ask contributors ...

Clarke: Other groups to propose as WGs ?

<igarashi> zakim +??p1 is igarashi

John Simmons: Discuss to narrow down reqs to key top level reqs

John: more success this way

<igarashi> zakim: +??p1 is igarashi

Clarke: will not which can't be done,

Shortlist of reqs in next few weeks

<Clarke> use case classification -http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/MPTF/MPTF_Discussions

Clarke: Discussions ... use cases , sub use cases with individual reqs ...

protection, adaptive streaming, ...

?, ...stereo video

No changes ... with one line reasoning ... be challenge if any issues

<Clarke> Requirements - http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/MPTF/MPTF_Requirements

Clarke: Requirements next to take bulk of disucssion today

Three catgories: delivery of TV services, adaptive streaming, protection

Go through one at time, consensus or more investigation needed, name people to study more if issues ... OK ?

timed text cue mapping

mapping with exisitgn standards, what to represent in existing timed text specificaiton

SCTE 35, SCTE-130, CableLabs-EISS, etc.) is mapped to timed text track cues.

Jan: how to take with HTML WG if no changes

John: W3C vs industry for efforts

industy fora efforts

Clarke: if no resons to do anything in W3C what could be another fora, to identify then

Jan: #39 Media transport mapping, e.g., how to expose the timed text tracking and other standards
... W3C to be hands-off or be in collaboration with other bodies ...

Clarke: W3C directly, several countries maybe invovled, may be diffciult to track, ... informative document ... just being silent woulld be a problem

John: Take an action in Microsoft to discuss ... IBC discussions with broadcasters ...

<Clarke> ACTION: John to take task for finding good place for commonly referenced mapping document - asking Microsoft colleages [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/09/29-webtv-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-81 - Take task for finding good place for commonly referenced mapping document - asking Microsoft colleages [on John Simmons - due 2011-10-06].

Key Metadata Types: An ability to distinguish specific types of metadata should be added so that key metadata types can be handled appropriately by a User Agent.

Clarke: would benefit common understanding in W3C ... type to indicate signalling for interactive app, rather than generic type

as an example

Clarke: Repeats the question to all ...

Graham: ... ?

There is a bug report to HTML5 related to this topic ...

Kilroy: DASH approach ... identified different name spaces ... applied to different categories ....

ratings may vary in diffenrt territories ... as an example

allow description of tracks ... [missed the rest]

Clarke: Namespaces to solve all the issues ?

Kilroy: Define general categories ... localised description may be on BC system or geography
... DVB namespace registered by DVB ... another by W3C ...

Clarke: submitted bug covers this already ?

John: The bug does not probably as clearly as Kilroy what the requirement is ... might need to be updated ... or a new bug

Clarke: to take an action / note on this issue ?
... Can we amend a bug in W3C ?

<Zakim> kaz, you wanted to ask the group about possible f2f meetings on accessibility (to be connected later)

<Clarke> ACTION: Clarke to talk with Bob about possibly ammending bug related to @kind per Kilroy's suggestions [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/09/29-webtv-minutes.html#action02]

Kaz: joint meetign with HTML group and DAP in TPAC ... bring the issue there

Clarke: Sound as a good proposal
... any other groups to bring the reqs to ?

Kaz: WebAccessibility group ...
... Protocol format group ...

<kaz> protocol and formats working group

Kaz: also SVG WG and Multimodal Interaction WG
... ... Community group for captioning lead by David Singer to discuss too

Clarke: Anything else today ?

John: Schedule towards TPAC with weekly telcos ... sufficient to do the work ? ... longer calls needed ?

clarke: do the math of the time needed ... anyone unwilling to extend telco time ?

John: willing to work in flexible times on this ...

[great motocycle noise heard in the line ? ;-)]

Clarke to make a proposal

<Clarke> Kaz, can you finalize the notes and send a link?

<Clarke> thx

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