IRC log of wai-wcag on 2011-09-29

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logging to http://www.w3.org/2011/09/29-wai-wcag-irc
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RRSAgent, make logs public
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Zakim, this will be WAI_WCAG
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ok, trackbot, I see WAI_WCAG3(GALLERY)3:00PM already started
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Meeting: Web Content Accessibility Guidelines Working Group Teleconference
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Date: 29 September 2011
19:59:56 [jamesn]
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20:00:06 [Mary]
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20:00:18 [jamesn]
zakim, who is on the phone?
20:00:18 [Zakim]
On the phone I see +1.202.418.aaaa, +1.703.602.aabb, Judy, Jeanne, [Oracle]
20:00:33 [jamesn]
zakim, Oracle is James_Nurthen
20:00:34 [Zakim]
+James_Nurthen; got it
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- +1.703.602.aabb
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-James_Nurthen
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- +1.202.418.aaaa
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-Judy
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-Jeanne
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WAI_WCAG3(GALLERY)3:00PM has ended
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Attendees were +1.202.418.aaaa, +1.703.602.aabb, Judy, Jeanne, James_Nurthen
20:01:55 [jamesn]
zakim, who is on the Phone
20:01:55 [Zakim]
I don't understand 'who is on the Phone', jamesn
20:02:00 [jamesn]
zakim, who is on the Phone?
20:02:01 [Zakim]
apparently WAI_WCAG3(GALLERY)3:00PM has ended, jamesn
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On IRC I see Mary, jamesn, Zakim, RRSAgent, MichaelC, trackbot
20:03:34 [MichaelC]
zakim, this is 9224
20:03:34 [Zakim]
ok, MichaelC; that matches WAI_WCAG()4:00PM
20:03:43 [MichaelC]
zakim, who's on the phone?
20:03:43 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Mary_Utt, James_Nurthen, Bruce_Bailey
20:04:02 [Loretta]
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+Michael_Cooper
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+Loretta_Guarino_Reid
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+Marc_Johlic
20:05:13 [MichaelC]
agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2011JulSep/0176.html
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regrets: Tim_Boland, Katie_Haritos-Shea
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regrets+ Adam_Solomon
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+Andrew_Kirkpatrick
20:07:44 [jamesn]
scribeNick: jamesn
20:09:26 [jamesn]
RESOLUTION: Accept Issue LC-2464: Statement of Partial Conformance as proposed
20:09:47 [jamesn]
RESOLUTION: Accept Issue LC-2476: Errata page at http://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG20/errata/ as proposed
20:10:05 [jamesn]
RESOLUTION: Accept Issue LC-2477: Expanding acronym of WCAG 2.0 in the document title as proposed
20:12:37 [Zakim]
+David_MacDonald
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+??P13
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RESOLUTION: Accept Issue LC-2563: Generating PDF Files - Complexity of last para. as proposed
20:13:46 [jamesn]
RESOLUTION: Accept Issue LC-2566: Word's table headings as proposed
20:13:57 [greggvanderheiden]
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20:14:06 [jamesn]
RESOLUTION: Accept Issue LC-2568: Inclusiveness of examples in PDF Techniques as proposed
20:15:10 [jamesn]
RESOLUTION: Accept to Draft a new failure for text input causing a change of context for 3.2.2 for future review
20:15:32 [jamesn]
TOPIC: Issue LC-2493: T3: Using standard text formatting conventions for headings
20:19:21 [Loretta]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2011Sep/0033.html
20:24:06 [MichaelC]
issue: Plain text techniques aren't "accessibility supported" yet we hold other technologies to that bar. Need to discuss if it makes sense to keep plain text techniques or what.
20:24:06 [trackbot]
Created ISSUE-9 - Plain text techniques aren't "accessibility supported" yet we hold other technologies to that bar. Need to discuss if it makes sense to keep plain text techniques or what. ; please complete additional details at http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/track/issues/9/edit .
20:24:12 [awk]
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20:24:48 [jamesn]
RESOLUTION: Accept Issue LC-2493: T3: Using standard text formatting conventions for headings as amended
20:25:37 [jamesn]
TOPIC: Issue LC-2494: innerHTMLnow part of DOM spec (HTML5) and widely used - allow?
20:27:10 [jamesn]
Loretta proposes keeping this issue open with a note that we don't plan to address it in this iteration
20:28:05 [jamesn]
Michael proposes an issue or an action which could be linked to this issue. Then close this one.
20:28:15 [MichaelC]
issue: Consider if innerHTML is an ok WCAG technique for script
20:28:15 [trackbot]
Created ISSUE-10 - Consider if innerHTML is an ok WCAG technique for script ; please complete additional details at http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/track/issues/10/edit .
20:28:28 [MichaelC]
issue-10: relates to comment LC-2494 http://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/35422/NOTE-WCAG20-TECHS-20101014/2494
20:28:29 [trackbot]
ISSUE-10 Consider if innerHTML is an ok WCAG technique for script notes added
20:28:56 [MichaelC]
issue-10: surveyed 29 September 2011 http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20110929/results#x2494
20:28:56 [trackbot]
ISSUE-10 Consider if innerHTML is an ok WCAG technique for script notes added
20:30:33 [jamesn]
RESOLUTION: Accept Issue LC-2494: innerHTMLnow part of DOM spec (HTML5) and widely used - allow? as amended with pointer to new issue
20:31:12 [jamesn]
TOPIC: Issue LC-2498: Understanding SC 2.4.6 needs improvement
20:31:33 [jamesn]
looks like the response is garbled. Need to bounce back to person who proposed.
20:31:55 [jamesn]
TOPIC: Issue LC-2499: Mixup in Understanding doc: SC 3.2.2 and SC 3.2.5
20:32:31 [jamesn]
Loretta proposes leaving this open too
20:33:30 [jamesn]
leave this open
20:33:36 [jamesn]
TOPIC: Issue LC-2508: Linking to old version of Inspect Objects
20:34:37 [jamesn]
RESOLUTION: Accept Issue LC-2508: Linking to old version of Inspect Objects as amended
20:34:47 [jamesn]
TOPIC: Issue LC-2533: Technique has poor and undocumented browser support
20:39:28 [jamesn]
RESOLUTION: Accept Issue LC-2533: Technique has poor and undocumented browser support as proposed
20:39:36 [Zakim]
-Bruce_Bailey
20:39:48 [jamesn]
TOPIC: Issue LC-2546: Embedded Flash content
20:41:18 [Loretta]
http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20/time-limits-pause.html
20:42:31 [jamesn]
zakim, who is noisy?
20:42:42 [Zakim]
+Bruce_Bailey
20:42:47 [Zakim]
jamesn, listening for 13 seconds I could not identify any sounds
20:48:08 [Loretta]
http://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/35422/WD-UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20-20110621/2546
20:49:27 [jamesn]
RESOLUTION: Accept Issue LC-2546: Embedded Flash content as amended
20:49:54 [jamesn]
TOPIC: Issue LC-2562: Misinterpretation of list of assistive technologies and versions supporting PDF techniques
20:54:00 [Loretta]
The PDF techniques link to PDF files that can be used for testing the technique.
20:55:48 [Loretta]
The examples in the PDF techniques link to PDF files that may be used for testing the techniques.
20:57:18 [jamesn]
RESOLUTION: Accept Issue LC-2562: Misinterpretation of list of assistive technologies and versions supporting PDF techniques as amended
20:57:30 [Zakim]
-Bruce_Bailey
20:57:40 [jamesn]
TOPIC: Issue LC-2569: Example 2
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+Bruce_Bailey
20:59:53 [jamesn]
ACTION: james to contact Adam to find out why there is a diconnect on LC-2569
20:59:54 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-153 - Contact Adam to find out why there is a diconnect on LC-2569 [on James Nurthen - due 2011-10-06].
21:00:30 [jamesn]
TOPIC: Issue LC-2570: Technique for a decorative image?
21:01:12 [jamesn]
Loretta states that doesn't want this merged now but should perhaps be addressed in the next set of work
21:01:35 [jamesn]
Removing techniques at this stage of the review process probably shouldn't happen
21:02:06 [MichaelC]
issue: SCR2 and SCR20 seem to overlap, consider merging
21:02:07 [trackbot]
Created ISSUE-11 - SCR2 and SCR20 seem to overlap, consider merging ; please complete additional details at http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/track/issues/11/edit .
21:02:25 [MichaelC]
issue-11: relates to comment LC-2570 http://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/35422/WD-WCAG20-TECHS-20110621/2570
21:02:25 [trackbot]
ISSUE-11 SCR2 and SCR20 seem to overlap, consider merging notes added
21:03:36 [Loretta]
There appears to be considerable overlap between SCR2 and SCR20. We have created an Issue (http://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/35422/WD-WCAG20-TECHS-20110621/2570) so that we can reconcile these techniques in our next round of updates.
21:05:05 [jamesn]
RESOLUTION: Accept Issue LC-2570: Technique for a decorative image? as amended
21:05:29 [jamesn]
TOPIC: New example for H48: Using ol, ul and dl for lists or groups of links
21:07:41 [awk]
Sorry, I need to leave early...
21:07:51 [Zakim]
-Andrew_Kirkpatrick
21:11:02 [MichaelC]
close action-144
21:11:03 [trackbot]
ACTION-144 Investigate a technique using dt, dl in the way recommended in LC 2540 and other ways closed
21:11:42 [jamesn]
RESOLUTION: Accept New example for H48: Using ol, ul and dl for lists or groups of links as proposed
21:20:40 [jamesn]
zakim, who is making noise?
21:20:54 [Zakim]
jamesn, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Loretta_Guarino_Reid (43%), David_MacDonald (5%)
21:21:19 [jamesn]
rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/09/29-wai-wcag-minutes.html jamesn
21:22:32 [Loretta]
http://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/35422/REC-WCAG20-20081211/2571
21:29:46 [Zakim]
-Mary_Utt
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-Loretta_Guarino_Reid
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-James_Nurthen
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-??P13
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-David_MacDonald
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-Bruce_Bailey
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-Michael_Cooper
21:30:20 [MichaelC]
chair: Loretta_Guarino_Reid
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WAI_WCAG()4:00PM has ended
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Attendees were James_Nurthen, Mary_Utt, Bruce_Bailey, Michael_Cooper, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Marc_Johlic, Andrew_Kirkpatrick, David_MacDonald
21:30:36 [MichaelC]
rrsagent, make minutes
21:30:36 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/09/29-wai-wcag-minutes.html MichaelC
21:31:09 [MichaelC]
rrsagent, bye
21:31:09 [RRSAgent]
I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2011/09/29-wai-wcag-actions.rdf :
21:31:09 [RRSAgent]
ACTION: james to contact Adam to find out why there is a diconnect on LC-2569 [1]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/09/29-wai-wcag-irc#T20-59-53
21:31:13 [MichaelC]
zakim, bye
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