IRC log of wai-wcag on 2011-09-29
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2011/09/29-wai-wcag-irc
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- RRSAgent, make logs public
- 19:58:48 [Zakim]
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- Zakim, this will be WAI_WCAG
- 19:58:50 [Zakim]
- ok, trackbot, I see WAI_WCAG3(GALLERY)3:00PM already started
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- Meeting: Web Content Accessibility Guidelines Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 29 September 2011
- 19:59:56 [jamesn]
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- 20:00:06 [Mary]
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- 20:00:18 [jamesn]
- zakim, who is on the phone?
- 20:00:18 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see +1.202.418.aaaa, +1.703.602.aabb, Judy, Jeanne, [Oracle]
- 20:00:33 [jamesn]
- zakim, Oracle is James_Nurthen
- 20:00:34 [Zakim]
- +James_Nurthen; got it
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- - +1.703.602.aabb
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- -James_Nurthen
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- - +1.202.418.aaaa
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- -Judy
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- -Jeanne
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- WAI_WCAG3(GALLERY)3:00PM has ended
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- Attendees were +1.202.418.aaaa, +1.703.602.aabb, Judy, Jeanne, James_Nurthen
- 20:01:55 [jamesn]
- zakim, who is on the Phone
- 20:01:55 [Zakim]
- I don't understand 'who is on the Phone', jamesn
- 20:02:00 [jamesn]
- zakim, who is on the Phone?
- 20:02:01 [Zakim]
- apparently WAI_WCAG3(GALLERY)3:00PM has ended, jamesn
- 20:02:02 [Zakim]
- On IRC I see Mary, jamesn, Zakim, RRSAgent, MichaelC, trackbot
- 20:03:34 [MichaelC]
- zakim, this is 9224
- 20:03:34 [Zakim]
- ok, MichaelC; that matches WAI_WCAG()4:00PM
- 20:03:43 [MichaelC]
- zakim, who's on the phone?
- 20:03:43 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see Mary_Utt, James_Nurthen, Bruce_Bailey
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- +Michael_Cooper
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- +Loretta_Guarino_Reid
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- +Marc_Johlic
- 20:05:13 [MichaelC]
- agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2011JulSep/0176.html
- 20:06:02 [MichaelC]
- regrets: Tim_Boland, Katie_Haritos-Shea
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- regrets+ Adam_Solomon
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- +Andrew_Kirkpatrick
- 20:07:44 [jamesn]
- scribeNick: jamesn
- 20:09:26 [jamesn]
- RESOLUTION: Accept Issue LC-2464: Statement of Partial Conformance as proposed
- 20:09:47 [jamesn]
- RESOLUTION: Accept Issue LC-2476: Errata page at http://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG20/errata/ as proposed
- 20:10:05 [jamesn]
- RESOLUTION: Accept Issue LC-2477: Expanding acronym of WCAG 2.0 in the document title as proposed
- 20:12:37 [Zakim]
- +David_MacDonald
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- +??P13
- 20:13:23 [David]
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- 20:13:33 [jamesn]
- RESOLUTION: Accept Issue LC-2563: Generating PDF Files - Complexity of last para. as proposed
- 20:13:46 [jamesn]
- RESOLUTION: Accept Issue LC-2566: Word's table headings as proposed
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- 20:14:06 [jamesn]
- RESOLUTION: Accept Issue LC-2568: Inclusiveness of examples in PDF Techniques as proposed
- 20:15:10 [jamesn]
- RESOLUTION: Accept to Draft a new failure for text input causing a change of context for 3.2.2 for future review
- 20:15:32 [jamesn]
- TOPIC: Issue LC-2493: T3: Using standard text formatting conventions for headings
- 20:19:21 [Loretta]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2011Sep/0033.html
- 20:24:06 [MichaelC]
- issue: Plain text techniques aren't "accessibility supported" yet we hold other technologies to that bar. Need to discuss if it makes sense to keep plain text techniques or what.
- 20:24:06 [trackbot]
- Created ISSUE-9 - Plain text techniques aren't "accessibility supported" yet we hold other technologies to that bar. Need to discuss if it makes sense to keep plain text techniques or what. ; please complete additional details at http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/track/issues/9/edit .
- 20:24:12 [awk]
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- 20:24:48 [jamesn]
- RESOLUTION: Accept Issue LC-2493: T3: Using standard text formatting conventions for headings as amended
- 20:25:37 [jamesn]
- TOPIC: Issue LC-2494: innerHTMLnow part of DOM spec (HTML5) and widely used - allow?
- 20:27:10 [jamesn]
- Loretta proposes keeping this issue open with a note that we don't plan to address it in this iteration
- 20:28:05 [jamesn]
- Michael proposes an issue or an action which could be linked to this issue. Then close this one.
- 20:28:15 [MichaelC]
- issue: Consider if innerHTML is an ok WCAG technique for script
- 20:28:15 [trackbot]
- Created ISSUE-10 - Consider if innerHTML is an ok WCAG technique for script ; please complete additional details at http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/track/issues/10/edit .
- 20:28:28 [MichaelC]
- issue-10: relates to comment LC-2494 http://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/35422/NOTE-WCAG20-TECHS-20101014/2494
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- ISSUE-10 Consider if innerHTML is an ok WCAG technique for script notes added
- 20:28:56 [MichaelC]
- issue-10: surveyed 29 September 2011 http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20110929/results#x2494
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- ISSUE-10 Consider if innerHTML is an ok WCAG technique for script notes added
- 20:30:33 [jamesn]
- RESOLUTION: Accept Issue LC-2494: innerHTMLnow part of DOM spec (HTML5) and widely used - allow? as amended with pointer to new issue
- 20:31:12 [jamesn]
- TOPIC: Issue LC-2498: Understanding SC 2.4.6 needs improvement
- 20:31:33 [jamesn]
- looks like the response is garbled. Need to bounce back to person who proposed.
- 20:31:55 [jamesn]
- TOPIC: Issue LC-2499: Mixup in Understanding doc: SC 3.2.2 and SC 3.2.5
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- Loretta proposes leaving this open too
- 20:33:30 [jamesn]
- leave this open
- 20:33:36 [jamesn]
- TOPIC: Issue LC-2508: Linking to old version of Inspect Objects
- 20:34:37 [jamesn]
- RESOLUTION: Accept Issue LC-2508: Linking to old version of Inspect Objects as amended
- 20:34:47 [jamesn]
- TOPIC: Issue LC-2533: Technique has poor and undocumented browser support
- 20:39:28 [jamesn]
- RESOLUTION: Accept Issue LC-2533: Technique has poor and undocumented browser support as proposed
- 20:39:36 [Zakim]
- -Bruce_Bailey
- 20:39:48 [jamesn]
- TOPIC: Issue LC-2546: Embedded Flash content
- 20:41:18 [Loretta]
- http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20/time-limits-pause.html
- 20:42:31 [jamesn]
- zakim, who is noisy?
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- +Bruce_Bailey
- 20:42:47 [Zakim]
- jamesn, listening for 13 seconds I could not identify any sounds
- 20:48:08 [Loretta]
- http://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/35422/WD-UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20-20110621/2546
- 20:49:27 [jamesn]
- RESOLUTION: Accept Issue LC-2546: Embedded Flash content as amended
- 20:49:54 [jamesn]
- TOPIC: Issue LC-2562: Misinterpretation of list of assistive technologies and versions supporting PDF techniques
- 20:54:00 [Loretta]
- The PDF techniques link to PDF files that can be used for testing the technique.
- 20:55:48 [Loretta]
- The examples in the PDF techniques link to PDF files that may be used for testing the techniques.
- 20:57:18 [jamesn]
- RESOLUTION: Accept Issue LC-2562: Misinterpretation of list of assistive technologies and versions supporting PDF techniques as amended
- 20:57:30 [Zakim]
- -Bruce_Bailey
- 20:57:40 [jamesn]
- TOPIC: Issue LC-2569: Example 2
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- +Bruce_Bailey
- 20:59:53 [jamesn]
- ACTION: james to contact Adam to find out why there is a diconnect on LC-2569
- 20:59:54 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-153 - Contact Adam to find out why there is a diconnect on LC-2569 [on James Nurthen - due 2011-10-06].
- 21:00:30 [jamesn]
- TOPIC: Issue LC-2570: Technique for a decorative image?
- 21:01:12 [jamesn]
- Loretta states that doesn't want this merged now but should perhaps be addressed in the next set of work
- 21:01:35 [jamesn]
- Removing techniques at this stage of the review process probably shouldn't happen
- 21:02:06 [MichaelC]
- issue: SCR2 and SCR20 seem to overlap, consider merging
- 21:02:07 [trackbot]
- Created ISSUE-11 - SCR2 and SCR20 seem to overlap, consider merging ; please complete additional details at http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/track/issues/11/edit .
- 21:02:25 [MichaelC]
- issue-11: relates to comment LC-2570 http://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/35422/WD-WCAG20-TECHS-20110621/2570
- 21:02:25 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-11 SCR2 and SCR20 seem to overlap, consider merging notes added
- 21:03:36 [Loretta]
- There appears to be considerable overlap between SCR2 and SCR20. We have created an Issue (http://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/35422/WD-WCAG20-TECHS-20110621/2570) so that we can reconcile these techniques in our next round of updates.
- 21:05:05 [jamesn]
- RESOLUTION: Accept Issue LC-2570: Technique for a decorative image? as amended
- 21:05:29 [jamesn]
- TOPIC: New example for H48: Using ol, ul and dl for lists or groups of links
- 21:07:41 [awk]
- Sorry, I need to leave early...
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- -Andrew_Kirkpatrick
- 21:11:02 [MichaelC]
- close action-144
- 21:11:03 [trackbot]
- ACTION-144 Investigate a technique using dt, dl in the way recommended in LC 2540 and other ways closed
- 21:11:42 [jamesn]
- RESOLUTION: Accept New example for H48: Using ol, ul and dl for lists or groups of links as proposed
- 21:20:40 [jamesn]
- zakim, who is making noise?
- 21:20:54 [Zakim]
- jamesn, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Loretta_Guarino_Reid (43%), David_MacDonald (5%)
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- rrsagent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/09/29-wai-wcag-minutes.html jamesn
- 21:22:32 [Loretta]
- http://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/35422/REC-WCAG20-20081211/2571
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- -Mary_Utt
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- -Loretta_Guarino_Reid
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- -James_Nurthen
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- -??P13
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- -David_MacDonald
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- -Bruce_Bailey
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- -Michael_Cooper
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- chair: Loretta_Guarino_Reid
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- WAI_WCAG()4:00PM has ended
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- Attendees were James_Nurthen, Mary_Utt, Bruce_Bailey, Michael_Cooper, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Marc_Johlic, Andrew_Kirkpatrick, David_MacDonald
- 21:30:36 [MichaelC]
- rrsagent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/09/29-wai-wcag-minutes.html MichaelC
- 21:31:09 [MichaelC]
- rrsagent, bye
- 21:31:09 [RRSAgent]
- I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2011/09/29-wai-wcag-actions.rdf :
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- ACTION: james to contact Adam to find out why there is a diconnect on LC-2569 [1]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/09/29-wai-wcag-irc#T20-59-53
- 21:31:13 [MichaelC]
- zakim, bye
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