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<JF> is it here or on html-a11y?
<scribe> scribe: janina
Judy: Believe JF is still editing
a response
... It's now timely to take this up
JF: High on my priorities this
week, behind proposal for Web TV workshop in Hollywood
... Believe primarily reordering and tightening up
Judy: Want to come back to
whether this is specific to this issue or a general response on
these kinds of issues
... Modular may be more useful in the latter case
... We got conflicting guidance from two Chairs in two
meetings
... Still think referencable docs are useful going forward
JF: Modularizing would be OK, not much extra time
Judy: Modularized works for me, not sure what we should call them, not white paper ...
Janina: Suggesting an agreed name/handle is important
Judy: "Note" would be good, but
it's a W3C reserved word
... We can decide by next week
s/can't/ /
JF: Goal is to get this done by Friday when I leave for vacation
Janina, suggest we repost to the list asking people to review whether ready to forward to Chairs
JF: I like the proposal, agree with process
Group suggesting to check with Steve first
Clarification that we need to repost to TF list with Monday deadline as ready for review
Judy: Monday then up to Thursday TF call
Janina, same state ...
Judy: Great
Janina will reforward
has 'resolved, won't fix' status
Judy: Question raised re wouldn't it be simpler to require alt? We need to be conservative
JF: Debate is how much is too
much
... We need a CP and to go through the process
Judy: Want to recheck possible
association with one other issue ...
... It was mentioned fig-caption not yet supported in AT
JF; My understanding is that all new HTML5 elements are treated as divs
JF: by old browsers
... We probably need a WCAG technique with aria-describedby via
id
... Will be an issue certainly
... suggest steve's html5accessibility.com is a good starting
point for AT vendor discussion
... All this requires browsers do something, and we only have
two html5 parsers so far, I believe
... Propose our next step on fig-caption is a cp
discussion of how to approach discussion
JF: Suggesting canvasing alternate media producers re how many words max for alt
Judy: Also a WCAG
discussion
... This approach looks at conformance, we might perhaps look
again at the warning approach
... Increasingly in scientific publications, fig-caption not on
main page, but in a popup after you select the thumbnail
<Judy> judy: but the publishing conventions are not consistent
discussion on how to restate based on experience
Janina encouraged to draft an updated consensus for discussion
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