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<trackbot> Date: 11 July 2011
<scribe> scribenick: ChrisL
<ed> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-fx/2011JulSep/0000.html
ed: main topic is f2fagenda
http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/wiki/F2F/Seattle_2011/agenda_proposals
ed: first, animation module.
mainly extension o apply to svg
... any other aspects?
... talk of animation apis, is that ready for discussion
smfr: dean not on the call but
has been working on it
... please add to agenda
ChrisL: maybe an implementation roundup for that spec
smfr: also the interaction with
smil-based animation, and timing issues, timebase, etc
... also requestAnimationFrame API
have people seen the inria work on timesheets in js with html5 and svg
http://wam.inrialpes.fr/timesheets/
ed: next is svg paint in css generated images
ChrisL: tab you will be there?
tab: yes
ed: can you prepare a wiki page describing this, or a link to a proposal, for the meeting?
tab: sure will send link later today ... wait 2 weeks ago. dean responded
shepazu: saw that, good idea
tab: wil ladd to spec after wd is published
fantasai: its already copied to /TR so start editing the ED
ed: next is filter effects, dino
and i working on this. one thing is defining hit testng
... pointer events mostly
... also the enable-background possible deprecation
... will update spec to 1.1se before meeting, also some new
things
... these topics came up before
ChrisL: with feDisplace it makes a big difference and people will be surprised
shepazu: there was mention of an opacity filter for pointer events. some maths discussions but its interesting
smfr: seems like we should talk about this at f2f
ed: doug maybe we can collect info on a wiki page for that agenda item
shepazu: happy to write up a
strawman spec text. not seen input from tantek on that
... it affects css3 ui
<fantasai> http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css3-ui/#pointer-events
ed: next topic is extending svg compositing to css
<ed> http://www.w3.org/TR/SVGCompositing/
tab: not sure on technical side
but it seems readsonable. want to see how it would be used in
css.
... not sure how its would be used in html/css
<TabAtkins_> tab: It seems very sensitive to the order of elements in the DOM, which may be troublesome when used with HTML, but then it might be okay, based on use-cases.
ed: ast item is fx transforms, which covers 2d transforms
ChrisL: status of 3d transforms wrt that?
smfr: vincent was asking for
that. 3d tx is laid ontop of 2d so they need to be kept in
sync
... reason we had sepeaate specs was that we assumed 2d would
be implemented more quickly, which happened
ChrisL: is the sync automatic or does it need work
smfr: needs work
... 2d shoudl lay groundwork for 3d
ed: so from that list, anything missing?
ChrisL: 'restricted text' (CGM) replacement for SVG, is there something from css we can use there?
<fantasai> CGM?
smfr: maybe we can get a solution for single line cases. css is the place for it. multiline is complicated
ChrisL: maybe copyfit from gcpm?
<hober> fantasai: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_Graphics_Metafile
ChrisL: will write it up before the f2f
ed: parameters is not on the list of topics. room for discussion there?
smfr: is that svg specific?
ed: that is the question
... css3 images has a way to reference parts of images
tab: which we get from media fragments
smfr: maybe talk about media fragments. can also select part of n html document. somene suggested an id to a fragment ....
tab: background-image-frame
... ie9 has multiple viewbox id support
shepazu: link?
<TabAtkins_> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Jul/0139.html
ed: for svg params, other params as well as viewBox. not clear if its useful outside of svg
tab: there is intereting overlap, like the elem function in css3 images
<dbaron> is there any filter stuff that should be on the f2f agenda?
dnaron, yes
ed: in coming week, we wil settle the fx day agenda and get some writeups on thew wiki. send details to fx mail list or add it to the wiki
smfr: location of fx meeting?
ChrisL: same as css, microsoft confirmed they would host
ed: also to confirm the dte since
that came up recenltly. tues 26 july
... any other topics? or end early
shepazu: on params, we want ot be compatible with css and there were so many svg use cases so the syntax ... ebecauseoof thedifferent use cases, is there overlap.
tab: so its acessed how do i use it as a css background
shepazu: any url syntax so works
anywhere
... passing in keyword parameters via the url
... we should talk about it but css is only affected
indirectly
... what about passing parameters *to* css
tab: ties into the variables spec. will be writing up that now. good to coordinate there
shepazu: different use cases bt the more similarity in features the better. maybe a telcon about that
tab: cool
ed: any other business?
... so unless any urgent business next meeting is f2f
zakim you suck
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