See also: IRC log
<wbailer> looking at the exif example
<daniel> (exif) identifier: needs to be reviewed
<wbailer> identifier property should be used instead of ID
<wbailer> type should be URI
<wbailer> rdf:datatype does not have correct values for the datatypes
<daniel> (exif) contributor is missing
<daniel> (exif) creator is missing
<daniel> (exif) date: not have correct values for the date
<daniel> (exif) location is missing
<daniel> (exif) description is missing
<daniel> (exif) keyword is missing
<daniel> (exif) genre is missing
<daniel> (exif) relation: curioucity mapping to RelatedSoundFile needs to be checked
<daniel> (exif) relation: has related to image inconsistency to mapping table (needs to be checked and updated accordingly)
<daniel> (exif) copyright: does not have correct values for the type, should be URI
<daniel> (exif) frameSiZe: ok
<daniel> (exif) frameSiZe: does not have correct values for the type
<daniel> (exif) compression: missing
<wbailer> moving to cablelabs example
<daniel> (cablelabs) identifier: is missing
<daniel> identifier is missing in the RDF
<daniel> (cablelabs) revised the mapping table: identifier is ok
<daniel> (cablelabs) title: is ok
<daniel> (cablelabs) contributor: ok
<daniel> (cablelabs) language: is missing
<daniel> (cablelabs) creator: missing
<daniel> (cablelabs) date: ok
<daniel> (cablelabs) location: missing
<daniel> (cablelabs) mediatype is *Title* too much in mapping table, check it out
<daniel> (cablelabs) description: ok
<daniel> (cablelabs) keyword: ok
<daniel> (cablelabs) genre: ok
<daniel> (cablelabs) relation: exist, needs to be fixed
<daniel> (cablelabs) collection: ok
<daniel> (cablelabs) copyright: ok
<daniel> (cablelabs) policy: missing
<daniel> (cablelabs) publisher: ok
<daniel> (cablelabs) targetAudience: ok
<daniel> (cablelabs) fragments: missing
<daniel> (cablelabs) attribute <holder> in RDF. copyright ?
<daniel> (cablelabs) holder needs to be replaced by copyright. needs to be fixed
<daniel> (cablelabs) nameFragmented: missing
<daniel> (cablelabs) frameSize: missing
<daniel> (cablelabs) compression: missing
<daniel> (cablelabs) duration: twice, needs to be fixed
<daniel> (cablelabs) twice in RFD, needs to be checked and fixed
<daniel> (cablelabs) format: ok
<daniel> (cablelabs) frameRate: missing
<daniel> (cablelabs) averageBitRate: missing
<daniel> cablelabs example is done
<daniel> moving to DIG35 example
<daniel> (IDG35) RFD based link should be changed, the current point in RDF is wrong
<daniel> (cablelabs) identifier: ok
<daniel> (cablelabs) title: ok
<daniel> (cablelabs) contributor: missing
<daniel> (cablelabs) creator: ok
<daniel> (cablelabs) CreateDate needs to be changed to CreationDate
<daniel> (IDG35) identifier: ok
<daniel> (IDG35) title: ok
<daniel> (IDG35) contributor: missing
<daniel> (IDG35) creator: ok
<daniel> (IDG35) CreateDate needs to be changed to CreationDate
<daniel> (IDG35) location: ok
<daniel> (IDG35) description: ok
<daniel> (IDG35) keyword: ok
<daniel> (IDG35) genre: missing
<daniel> (IDG35) copyright: ok
<daniel> (IDG35) policy: missing
<daniel> (IDG35) publisher: missing
<daniel> (IDG35) frameSize: ok
<daniel> (IDG35) compression: missing
<daniel> (IDG35) format: ok
<daniel> IDG35 example is done
<daniel> (IDG35) absolute path should be changed in RDF file
<daniel> moving to Dublin Core example
<daniel> (Dublin Core) identifier: ok
<daniel> (Dublin Core) title : ok
<daniel> (Dublin Core) language: ok
<daniel> (Dublin Core) contributor: ok
<daniel> (Dublin Core) creator: ok
<daniel> (Dublin Core) location: ok
<daniel> (Dublin Core) description: ok
<daniel> (Dublin Core) keyword: ok
<daniel> (Dublin Core) genre: ok
<daniel> (Dublin Core) all properties exist, resource needs to be linked for the related point
<daniel> moving to EBUCore example
<daniel> (EBU Core) identifier: ok
<daniel> (EBU Core) title: ok
<daniel> (EBU Core) language: hasPartNarrated does not seem to be corrected, needs to be checked and fixed
<daniel> (EBU Core) language: missing
<daniel> (EBU Core) locator: ok
<daniel> (EBU Core) contributor: missing
<daniel> (EBU Core) creator: ok
<daniel> (EBU Core) date: ok
<daniel> (EBU Core) location: ok
<daniel> (EBU Core) description: ok
<daniel> (EBU Core) keyword: ok
<daniel> (EBU Core) genre: missing
<daniel> (EBU Core) relation: rating is missing in mapping table, and seems to be wrong, needs to be checked
<daniel> (EBU Core) correction: missing
<daniel> (EBU Core) copyright: ok
<daniel> (EBU Core) publisher: ok
<daniel> (EBU Core) targetAudience: missing
<daniel> (EBU Core) fragments: ok
<daniel> (EBU Core) nameFragments: fragmentName in RDF, seems ok
<daniel> (EBU Core) frameSize: missing (RelatedImage is a thumbnail information)
<daniel> (EBU Core) compression: missing
<daniel> (EBU Core) duration: missing
<daniel> (EBU Core) format: ok (hasFormat)
<daniel> (EBU Core) samplingRate: missing
<daniel> (EBU Core) duration: s/missing/ok
<daniel> (EBU Core) frameRate: ok
<daniel> (EBU Core) averageBitRate: missing
<daniel> (EBU Core) numTracks: missing
<daniel> moving to ID3 example
<daniel> (ID3) title: ok
<daniel> (ID3) ID3_Complete_RDF/TTL is in use now
<daniel> (ID3) title: ok
<daniel> (ID3) language: ok
<daniel> (ID3) contributor: ok
<daniel> (ID3) creator: ok
<daniel> (ID3) date: ok
<daniel> (ID3) description: missing
<daniel> (ID3) keyword: ok
<daniel> (ID3) genre: ok
<daniel> (ID3) rating: ok
<daniel> (ID3) relation: missing
<daniel> (ID3) collection: missing
<daniel> (ID3) collection: isMemberOf is there, seems ok
<daniel> (ID3) copyright: missing
<daniel> (ID3) publisher: ok
<daniel> (ID3) compression: ok
<daniel> (ID3) duration: ok
<daniel> (ID3) duration has a wrong datatype, needs to be fixed
<daniel> (ID3) format: missing
<daniel> moving to IPTC example
<daniel> (IPTC) identifier: ok
<daniel> (IPTC) title: ok
<daniel> (IPTC) language: ok
<daniel> (IPTC) locator: ok
<daniel> (IPTC) contributor: ok
<daniel> (IPTC) creator: ok
<daniel> (IPTC) date: ok
<daniel> (IPTC) location:ok
<daniel> (IPTC) description: ok
<daniel> (IPTC) keyword: ok
<daniel> (IPTC) genre: missing
<daniel> (IPTC) relation: ok (hasRelatedImage)
<daniel> (IPTC) copyright: missing
<daniel> (IPTC) policy: missing
<daniel> (IPTC) publisher: updated in mapping table, missing
<daniel> (IPTC) targetAudience: missing
<daniel> (IPTC) fragments: missing
<daniel> (IPTC) namedFragment: missing
<daniel> (IPTC) s/fragments(namedFragment)/ok
<daniel> (IPTC) frameSize: missing
<daniel> (IPTC) compression: missing
<daniel> (IPTC) duration: ok
<daniel> (IPTC) format: ok
<daniel> (IPTC) samplingRate: missing
<daniel> (IPTC) frameRate: exist, but no mapping (incompleted) needs to be fixed
<daniel> (IPTC) averageBitRate: missing
<daniel> break for the lunch
moving to LOM example
(LOM) wrong namespace in RDF file, needs to be fixed
(LOM) missing namespace in RDF
(LOM) RDF element is wrong, datatype is missing
(LOM) identifier: using ID, needs to be synced
(LOM) title: ok
(LOM) language: ok
(LOM) locator: ok
(LOM) contributor: missing
(LOM) creator: ok
(LOM) description: ok
(LOM) keyword: ok
(LOM) genre: ok
(LOM) relation: missing
(LOM) publisher: ok (hasPublisher)
(LOM) frameSize: missing
(LOM) duration: missing
(LOM) format: ok (hasFormat)
moving to Media RSS example
<wbailer> moving to MPEG-7 example
(MPEG-7) identifier: missing
(MPEG-7) title: missing
(MPEG-7) language: ok
(MPEG-7) locator: missing
(MPEG-7) contributor: missing
(MPEG-7) creator: ok
(MPEG-7) date: ok
(MPEG-7) location: ok
(MPEG-7) description: ok
(MPEG-7) keyword: ok
(MPEG-7) genre: ok
(MPEG-7) rating: ok
(MPEG-7) relation: missing
(MPEG-7) collection: ok
(MPEG-7) copyright: ok
(MPEG-7) policy: ok
(MPEG-7) publisher: ok
(MPEG-7) targetAudience: ok
(MPEG-7) fragments: ok
(MPEG-7) namedFragments: ok
(MPEG-7) frameSize: ok
(MPEG-7) compression: ok
(MPEG-7) duration: ok
(MPEG-7) format: ok (hasFormat)
(MPEG-7) samplingRate: ok
(MPEG-7) frameRate: ok
(MPEG-7) averageBitRate: ok
(MPEG-7) averageBitRate: ok
(MPEG-7) numTracks: ok (numberofTrack)
moving to OGG example
(OGG) identifier: missing
(OGG) title: ok
(OGG) language: missing
(OGG) locator: exist in mapping table, locator is embedded in OGG file, but does not have a link ??? needs to be checked
(OGG) locator: locator in RDF should be pointing to the OGG file
(OGG) contributor: missing
(OGG) creator: ok
(OGG) date: ok
(OGG) location: ok
(OGG) description
(OGG) description: missing
(OGG) genre: missing
(OGG) relation: missing
(OGG) collection: missing
(OGG) copyright: ok
(OGG) policy: missing, but copyright has a creativecommon
(OGG) publisher: missing
(OGG) targetAudience: missing
(OGG) frameSize: ok
(OGG) compression: ok
(OGG) duration: ok
(OGG) format: missing
(OGG) samplingRate: ok
(OGG) frameRate: ok
(OGG) frameRate: ok
{MPEG7) typo: aveargeBitRate
(OGG) replacing bitRate with averageBitRate in mapping table
(OGG) numTrack: isNumTrack, hasNumTrack must be deleted in mapping table
moving to QT example
(QT) title: ok
(QT) contributor: missing
(QT) creator: missing
(QT) date: ok
(QT) location: missing
(QT) description: ok
(QT) keyword: missing
(QT) genre: missing
(QT) rating: missing
(QT) collection: missing
(QT) copyright: ok
(QT) publisher: ok
(QT) frameSize: wrong (frameSizeUnit) needs to be fixed
(QT) compression: missing
(QT) duration: ok
(QT) format: missing
(QT) samplingRate: missing
(QT) frameRate: ok
(QT) averageBitRate: ok
(QT) numTrack: missing
moving to DMS-1 example
(DMS-1) identifier: missing
(DMS-1) title: ok
(DMS-1) language: ok
(DMS-1) locator: ok
(DMS-1) contributor: ok
(DMS-1) creator: missing
(DMS-1) date: ok
(DMS-1) location: ok
(DMS-1) description: ok
(DMS-1) genre: ok
(DMS-1) keyword: ok
(DMS-1) rating: ok
(DMS-1) relation: ok
(DMS-1) collection: missing
(DMS-1) copyright: ok
(DMS-1) policy: ok
(DMS-1) publisher: ok
(DMS-1) targetAudience: ok
(DMS-1) fragments: ok
(DMS-1) namedFragments: missing
(DMS-1) frameSize: ok
(DMS-1) compression: ok
(DMS-1) duration: ok
(DMS-1) format: ok
(DMS-1) samplingRate: ok
(DMS-1) frameRate: ok
(DMS-1) averageBitRate: ok
(DMS-1) numTracks: ok
moving to TTML example
(TTML) title: ok
(TTML) language: missing
<pchampin> ok, thx :)
(TTML) contributor: (features <Person> </Person>) ok
(TTML) creator: missing
(TTML) description: ok
(TTML) copyright: ok
(TTML) publisher: missing
(TTML) fragments: ok
(TTML) namedFragments: (hasNameFragment) ok
(TTML) duration: ok
(TTML) frameRate: ok
moving to TV-Anytime example
(TV-Anytime) identifier: ok
(TV-Anytime) title: ok
(TV-Anytime) language: ok
(TV-Anytime) locator: ok
(TV-Anytime) contributor: missing
(TV-Anytime) creator: missing
(TV-Anytime) date: ok
(TV-Anytime) location: missing
reference docs: http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/ontology10/testsuite.html
(TV-Anytime) description: ok
(TV-Anytime) keyword: ok
(TV-Anytime) genre: ok
(TV-Anytime) rating: missing
(TV-Anytime) relation: missing
(TV-Anytime) collection: missing
(TV-Anytime) copyright: missing
(TV-Anytime) policy: missing
(TV-Anytime) publisher: ok
(TV-Anytime) targetAudience: missing
(TV-Anytime) fragments: ok
(TV-Anytime) namedFragments: ok
(TV-Anytime) frameSize: missing
(TV-Anytime) compression: missing
(TV-Anytime) duration: ok
(TV-Anytime) format: missing
(TV-Anytime) samplingRate: missing
(TV-Anytime) frameRate: missing (empty in mapping table)
(TV-Anytime) frameRate: mapping table is incompleted
(TV-Anytime) averageBitRate: missing
(TV-Anytime) numTracks: ok
<pchampin> Corresponds to 'identifier' in the Ontology for Media Resources. The value being a URI, it is recommended to use owl:sameAs when appropriate, in order to maximize interoperability.
<pchampin> http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc4151.html
<pchampin> pchampin: First we have to decide if we still want to limit 'identifier' to URIs, or if we want to allow other kinds of URIs
<pchampin> ... We can refer to RFC4151 to explain how to map "local" identifiers to URIs.
<pchampin> ... Then, if 'identifier' is limited to URI, we have to decide if we keep ma:identifier in the RDF ontology
<pchampin> PROPOSAL: keep 'identifier' (abstract ontology) limited to URIs; remove 'ma:identifier' from the RDF ontology and map the abstract property to RDF stuctures (node URI and owl:sameAs)
<pchampin> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/metadata_formats/
<pchampin> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/ontology10/testsuite.html
<tmichel_> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/ontology10/testsuite.html
<wbailer> moving to XMP example
<wbailer> validation: works when pasting content of files into rdf validator
<wbailer> validation fails from url http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/metadata_formats/xmp-canonical-mapped-to-mawg.rdf
<wbailer> error message: Undecodable data when reading URI at byte 8192 using encoding 'UTF-8'. Please check encoding and encoding declaration of your document.
<Wonsuk> (xmp) identifier is formally ok, but content is not real identifier
<Wonsuk> (xmp) title is ok, but uses rdf:Alt to repeat the properties
<Wonsuk> (xmp) language is ok
<Wonsuk> (xmp) contributor is ok
<Wonsuk> (xmp) creator is ok
<Wonsuk> (xmp) date is ok
<Wonsuk> (xmp) location is ok
<Wonsuk> (xmp) description is ok
<Wonsuk> (xmp) keywords is missing
<Wonsuk> (xmp) gerne is ok
<Wonsuk> (xmp) rating is ok
<Wonsuk> (xmp) rdf:alt, rdf:bag and rdf:seq need to be discussed
<Wonsuk> (xmp) Property names do not follow the RDF scheme of the ontology spec.
<Wonsuk> (xmp) Definition of Media Resource is missing
<Wonsuk> (xmp) File states it is about an XMP file
<Wonsuk> (xmp) rating is not correct
<Wonsuk> ... need to rating value
<Wonsuk> (xmp) relation: range has to be media resource URL
<Wonsuk> (xmp) copyright is missing
<Wonsuk> (xmp) Policy is ok
<Wonsuk> (xmp) Properties are grouped in several RDF descriptions
<Wonsuk> (xmp) publisher is ok
<Wonsuk> (xmp) framesize needs to be splited in width and height and units
<Wonsuk> (xmp) value of compression is not clear
<Wonsuk> (xmp) duration must be double
<Wonsuk> (xmp) format is ok
<Wonsuk> (xmp) samplingrate is ok
<Wonsuk> (xmp) framerate must be decimal
<Wonsuk> (xmp) bitrate is missing
<Wonsuk> (xmp) numTrecks must be a number
<Wonsuk> Moving to the youtube
<Wonsuk> (youtube) identifier uses rdf:ID and owl sameAs
<Wonsuk> (youtube) title is ok
<Wonsuk> (youtube) language is not mapped in mapping table
<Wonsuk> (youtube) locator is ok
<Wonsuk> (youtube) date is missing
<Wonsuk> (youtube) location is missing
<Wonsuk> (youtube) description is ok
<Wonsuk> (youtube) keyword is ok
<Wonsuk> (youtube) gerne is ok
<Wonsuk> (youtube) rating is ok
<Wonsuk> (youtube) publisher is ok
<Wonsuk> (youtube) targetAudiance is missing
<Wonsuk> (youtube) compression is ok
<Wonsuk> (youtube) duration is ok
<Wonsuk> ... but should be decimal
<Wonsuk> (youtube) format is ok
<Wonsuk> Moving to the 3GP
<Wonsuk> (3gp) description is ok
<Wonsuk> (3gp) title is in the file but not in the mapping table
<Wonsuk> (3gp) framesize must be width and height
<Wonsuk> (3gp) compression is missing
<Wonsuk> (3gp) duration is ok
<Wonsuk> (3gp) format is missing
<Wonsuk> (3gp) samplingrate is ok
<Wonsuk> (3gp) framerate is ok
<Wonsuk> (3gp) averagebitrate is ok
<Wonsuk> (3gp) numTracks is missing
<Wonsuk> Moving to the MP4
<Wonsuk> (mp4) title is in the file but not in the mapping table
<Wonsuk> (mp4) framesize must be width and height
<Wonsuk> (mp4) compression is missing. mapping table says it can be implicitly mapped.
<Wonsuk> (mp4) duration is ok
<Wonsuk> (mp4) format is missing
<Wonsuk> (mp4) samplingrate is ok
<Wonsuk> (mp4) framerate is ok
<Wonsuk> (mp4) averagebitrate is ok
<Wonsuk> (mp4) numTracks is missing
<Wonsuk> (mp4) date is in the file but not in the mapping table
<Wonsuk> Moving to the WebM
<Wonsuk> (mp4) copyright is ok
<Wonsuk> Moving to the WebM again
<Wonsuk> (webm) identifier is missing
<Wonsuk> (webm) title lacks rdf datatype
<Wonsuk> (webm) language is missing
<Wonsuk> (webm) locator is missing
<Wonsuk> (webm) contributor is missing
<Wonsuk> (webm) creator is ok
<Wonsuk> (webm) date is ok
<Wonsuk> (webm) location is ok
<Wonsuk> (webm) description is missing
<Wonsuk> (webm) keyword is missing
<Wonsuk> (webm) gerne is missing
<Wonsuk> (webm) rating is missing
<Wonsuk> (webm) relation is missing
<Wonsuk> (webm) collection is missing
<Wonsuk> (webm) publisher is missing
<Wonsuk> (webm) targetAudiance is missing
<Wonsuk> (webm) fragment is ok
<Wonsuk> (webm) nameFragment is ok
<Wonsuk> (webm) framesize is ok
<Wonsuk> (webm) compression is ok
<Wonsuk> (webm) duration is ok
<Wonsuk> (webm) format is missing
<Wonsuk> (webm) samplingrate is ok
<Wonsuk> (webm) framerate is ok
<Wonsuk> (webm) averagebitrate is ok
<Wonsuk> (webm) numTracks is ok
<wbailer> rssagent, draft minutes
<wbailer> rssagent, draft minutes
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