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SAZ: questions or comments about last meeting?
<shadi> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-earl10-comments/
SAZ: have finished official comments period
... quite a bunch of comments received. Good thing
... substancial comments from Sean
<shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/2011/eval/eval-tf
SAZ: don't see any CR stopper
<shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/2011/eval/
<shadi> http://www.w3.org/2011/05/testing-ig-charter.html
SAZ: but need to process them
... discussion WG vs. IG
<shadi> http://www.w3.org/wiki/Testing/Requirements
SAZ: requirements are very elaborated and
extensive
... need to recruit people for the TF
<shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/2011/eval/eval-tf
SAZ: it is not an EO TF
... it is an ERT and WCAG one because is technical
... could be reviewed by EO to make it more 'educational'
... do expect 6 hours per week of work in the TF
CS: where to point people potentially interested in the TF?
SAZ: please point to the TF web page
... participants need to agree to the terms and conditions of the WG
<sinarmaya> I think that is important make a call to the "old", not +65 but people working from long time in the wcag redaction.
SAZ: but do not need to be a GS participant
EGR: we need people with experience dealing with
WCAG low-level details
... people with background in accessibility issues
SAZ: also important to have people with accessibility experience but also with new perspectives
CI: what are the expected tasks?
SAZ: try not to start from zero
... lots of thinks out there about a11y methodologies
... review current work and try to find consensus
... the more active participants that can make action items the best
<shadi> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-earl10-comments/
<shadi> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-earl10-comments/2011May/
<shadi> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-earl10-comments/2011May/0000.html
SAZ: most of them from Sean Palmer
... can go through by date
... first one just a 'metabug'
<shadi> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-earl10-comments/2011May/0001.html
SAZ: nothing to resolve at 0000
... about the classes hierarchy
... discussed before
... hierarchy or importance is relative
<shadi> http://www.w3.org/TR/EARL10-Schema/#classes
SAZ: do people feel that it is important to clarify importance or hierarchy in the document?
CI: don't think so, maybe in a guide, but not in a spec
SAZ: having diagrams sounds like a good idea
... better in the guide rather than here
<sinarmaya> ok
SAZ: proposal to be more explanatory in the guide but keep the guide straightforward
<shadi> RESOLUTION: explain to the commenter that background information about the Schema (including potentially diagrams and such) belong in the Developer Guide, so that the Schema spec itself remains succint
<shadi> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-earl10-comments/2011May/0002.html
SAZ: probably the most important from Sean
... Conforming sec
... first at spec, then moved into the guide
... asking for moving it back to the schema
... need to reopen the issue again and think about it
<cstrobbe> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-earl10-comments/2011Jun/0000.html
<shadi> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-earl10-comments/2011May/0004.html
<sinarmaya> I agree with Sean, the conformance must be normative, and then should be in the specification.
SAZ: 0004 related to 0002
... was one of the reasons for moving conformance to the guide
... can issue EARL with a evalution profile and let people add new ones
... if you put the profile in the schema will be difficult to extend due to
REC track
... could check with other groups how they manage profiles
... need to look at what the relation between conformance and profiles is
... also need to think about how to manage them
... e.g. a section about them in the spec but details elsewhere
<shadi> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-earl10-comments/2011May/0003.html
<scribe> ACTION: shadi and ciglesia to check other profile concepts within different WGs and see how they could fit here [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/06/22-er-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-126 - And ciglesia to check other profile concepts within different WGs and see how they could fit here [on Shadi Abou-Zahra - due 2011-06-29].
<scribe> ACTION: ciglesia to check other profile concepts within different WGs and see how they could fit here [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/06/22-er-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-127 - Check other profile concepts within different WGs and see how they could fit here [on Carlos Iglesias - due 2011-06-29].
SAZ: having a profile with some built-in
constraints in there
... please continue to read comments
... don't hesitate to send your comments to the lists
... need involvement
SAZ: next meeting next week June 29th
<shadi> Wednesday 29 June