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<ericP> http://www.w3.org/2011/05/HCLSIGCharter-proposal
scribenick BobP
ericP: Brag sheet for TMO, or high level use cases. What is the next doc to write?
<iker> me neither
ericP: humm,,,
<dbooth> I think stepping through would make sense
Heard from Michel and Scott.
<dbooth> I think reviewing the documents would make sense.
scribe: presented at the meeting
in London. Protocol-driven research
... modify the standard to fit to the BRIDG model
ericP: Liason to them? for charter
FDA in long term needs to expand regulatory, semantics, etc
ericP: Two diff communities for similar stuff.
Onts. cover tissue, main touch points to bridg, biobanking
ericP: Experiments need to
capture context; touches on Pfizer, Pistoia want to do
... having worked out onts, given schema for graph struct, ont
for grounding
... then intersection between bridg and lsdam
HCLS work shines; collaboration could bring strengths to table
scribe: harmonize to one project, maybe
ericP: Give us use cases
Harmonizes to HL7 RIM modeling; possibly FDA, could contribute to effort
Michel: Was invited w Scott, Alan
Ruttenberg
... not clear what the mandate was. Ended up disseminating to
WGs
... WGs on imaging, provenance; I went to WG on patient
care
... snomed, etc; They don't yet grok semweb. Explained for
vocab managment, integration
... some nice work, to mark up notes w bioPortal vocab; pile of
codes for visits
... can do longitudinal with that.
... also tried to get patient record data, but couldn't
quite
... see HCLS as a potential partner; need to visibly engage
these groups and work w them
ericP: Targets?
Michel: Have a diversity of
interests; can help them develop. Interested in SADI etc
... linked data projects, don't quite understand the
governance, lack of support, etc
... some things that we need to work out to ensure the
confidence in our product
ericP: Produce less LOD, but better life cycle?
Michel: Perhaps. Notes on how to accomplish these tasks; we still should describe how to use tech
ericP: Matthais is excited w clincical decision support
Michel: Meeting kept pushing on
how it helps patient care; tech details
... we have tech, not applying correctly?
... patientsLikeMe, how can we make it better for patients, as
opposed to for doctors
ericP: Doctor work will help
patients; but patient appeal would be tools that allow them to
explore their disease
... most immediate case for patient would be
<disease-centric?>
... also patient registries would allow them to contribute to
massive data
Michel: Need to address improved
care rather than research
... patients are very active. Agree that marketplace over
patient data would be valuable
... but not clear to me that beyond condition, treatment,
outcome would be interesting
... but - are interested in clinical trials.
ONC is started to employ, >2015
ericP: Chartering. Thx to Dave and Michel.
<Zakim> dbooth, you wanted to comment on use cases document: http://www.w3.org/wiki/HCLSIG/HighLevelUseCases
dbooth: Want to comment on use cases
<dbooth> Personalized medicine
dbooth: two other things to
include:
... somewhat related to section on data ownership. Important
potential here.
<dbooth> Healthcare quality measurement
dbooth: partially mentioned in
pharmaco-vigilance
... would like to see HC quality measurement in title
ericP: Same data, same mechanism; however the way we talk is different when talk to different communities
<DaveHauNCI> Report on Learning Healthcare System (Institute of Medicine): http://www.iom.edu/Reports/2011/Digital-Infrastructure-for-a-Learning-Health-System.aspx
<DaveHauNCI> ONC slide deck on Learning Healthcare System: http://www.iom.edu/~/media/Files/Activity%20Files/Quality/VSRT/Digital%20Infrastructure%20Release/Charles%20Friedman.pdf
dbooth: Research and bedside have different liability profiles
ericP: Next steps on charter.
Couple of months extension; draft is pretty there
... is it optimal? Expect to get warm-fuzzy soon
... opportunity for outreach: brag-sheets for translational and
high-level use cases
... give us the necessary text for customers, outreach material
more important than charter
Michel: Will comment on docs
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