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<trackbot> Date: 02 June 2011
<janina> Meeting: HTML-A11Y telecon
<janina> Scribe: Steve_Faulkner
<janina> agenda: this
JS: Organizing Last Call
Review
... Laura is monitoring the bugs
... Bug triage team will need to continue checking the bugs for
a11y keyword
... Martin Kliem not on the call, maybe a bit busier than
before.
... we might ask PF and WCAG to read various parts of the specs
and also people on the TF
... need to decide what should we read and what safely skip?
and have at least 2 or 3 people reading each section
JF: good chunks of the specs are really technical and have no impact on TF work. should we check the entire thing or focus on area with more impact?
<LJW> +1 to focusing our efforts.
JS: yes. pull out the TOC for
each specs and select parts with UI impact
... we also need to look at the deadlines
MC: 9 weeks left
MS: happy to help with selecting which parts of the specs should be checked by the TF
JF: should we start with the HTML5 for web authors?
MS: yes but there are also implementation issues that we need to verify
<Zakim> MikeSmith, you wanted to say I will be very glad to help with determining which parts of the spec to focus on for review
CS: also user agent behavior can impact accessibility
JF: we need to make sure we have
the right resources
... in the TF we are relatively thin on the technical side
JS: we should identify what to
review first and then the resources
... should we look at the TOC?
<MichaelC> HTML 5, 25 May 2011
MC: [reading out top level
TOC]
... 2 Common infrastructure, probably not a priority, but
important for vendors. We should ask Apple, Microsoft, Opera,
etc to find people
... Apple: James Craig, Opera: Charles, Mozilla: David B, MS:
Cynthia
... 3 Semantics, structure, and APIs of HTML documents
MS: 3.2.3 Global attributes is
one review task, 3.2.5 Content models another one
... 3.2.7 WAI-ARIA: finish our work and review
3.5 Dynamic markup insertion: probably nees a quick look (CS)
4 The elements of HTML
4.2 Document metadata, we need to review it
4.3 Scripting, maybe
4.4 Sections, yes
4.5 Grouping content, yes
4.6 Text-level semantics, yes
4.7 Edits, yes
4.8 Embedded content, need to split it: img, iframe (seamless attribute makes it important for accessibility)+embed+object+param, video+audio+source+track+ 4.8.10 Media
4.8.11 The canvas element
4.8.12-14: map, area, image maps together
4.8.15 MathML, need to try to find people, but yes for review (implementation issues)
4.8.16 SVG, yes
4.9 Tabular data, yes
4.10 Forms, yes, careful review
4.11 Interactive elements, we might want to split it
4.11.1 The details element with 4.11.2 The summary element
CS: would be good to get content producers to review the specs
4.12 Links, yes
MS: 4.13 Common idioms without dedicated elements, seems to relate to ARIA landmarks
CS and to WCAG techniques
MS: 4.14 Matching HTML elements using selectors, review with interactive elements (Cynthia)
5 Loading Web pages, maybe UAAG can comment
6 Web application APIs, yes in one block
CS: i'll get someone in MS to review this.
MS: 7 User interaction, we should break it down
focus and keyboard shortcuts one review, content editable and grammar and spelling checking one review, drag and drop by its own, Editing APIs should be part of both content editable and with script reviews
hidden attribute and activation with keyboard focus or scripting
CS: i'll find someone in MS and help
MS: 8 The HTML syntax, should we worry about this? with parsing maybe, low priority
9 The XHTML syntax, same
10 Rendering, probably not normative, but ask UAAG and part of interactions. also ask implementors
11 Obsolete features, should we review the all section or cherry pick?
review all
12 IANA considerations, probably not used by AT
12.4 text/cache-manifest might have AT implications
MS: will be catched in review for section 5
CS: also vendors and content providers should review it
JS: we need a wiki with all these
notes and then assign the sections to reviewers
... we didn't discuss how to determine that we have consensus,
but we'll need to do it soon
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