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RDF Web Applications Working Group Teleconference

26 May 2011

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Ivan, Steven, +49.631.205.75.aaaa, Benjamin, +44.123.456.aabb, manu1, SebastianGermesin, ShaneM, Knud
Regrets
Chair
Manu
Scribe
Steven

Contents


<trackbot> Date: 26 May 2011

<scribe> Scribe: Steven

Intro Sebastian

Sebastian: See my email on the list

Ivan: Haven't seen it
... Reminder for people to rejoin the group

Introductions - Sebastian

Sebastian: I am researcher at German research centre for Artificial Intelligence in Saarbruechen, PhD thesis, EU funded, researching interaction patterns
... see my mail for more details when it arrives
... my research led me to RDFa, and am happy to join the group, hope I can add valuable input
... this is my first W3C WG, sorry for being a newby
... I work with Henry Berguis

Manu: What is the project IKS trying to do?

Sebastian: About CMSs and the technology stack needed to support them
... Apache incubator group Stanbol to define entities in text

<manu1> http://incubator.apache.org/stanbol/

Manu: Other technologies?

<manu1> Henri Berguis

Sebastian: JSON, RDFa, [one other]

<ivan> Common scribe manual

RDFa news and updates on spec progress

Manu: HTML5+RDFa and HTML4+RDFa entered last call
... this is good news
... all browser manufacturers voted against them
... everyone else was positive
... I don't understand the browser manufacturers votes.
... But Microsoft was positive!

Ivan: Charles's comment (opera) was lukewarm, but not hostile

<manu1> http://intertwingly.net/stories/2011/05/23/lastcall.html#xq8

<manu1> The poll results w/ comments are here: http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/40318/html5-last-call-poll/results

[Manu reads some responses]

Manu: State of validator?

Ivan: Ongoing, not sure of final status
... up and running this week, haven't seen it yet
... we should ask again, maybe due to someone on holiday
... it will happen
... the HTML5 bit is not so sure.

<manu1> Steven: What is the status of HTML5+RDFa? Is HTML4+RDFa tied to it?

Steven: Presumably the HTML5+RDFa document references HTML5 and so can only move ahead when it does

Ivan: Yes

Shane: HTML4+RDFa, who publishes it?

Ivan: No separate document for that.

Shane: Pity.

Manu: Nothing we can do about it.

[Sebastian's introduction email -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2011May/0082.html]

RDF Interfaces, RDF API and RDFa API testing

Benjamin: My PhD is blocking me working on it at the moment, but maybe I can work together with Sebastian

Manu: Nathan is busy too; so the two main editors are not available
... I'm worried that the work will stall

<manu1> Niklas Linstrom

<Benjamin> Niklas Kindsröm

Benjamin: How about asking Niklas Lindström?

Manu: Good idea

Sebastian: I've recently been looking at all the documents, for some of them I have implementations, so maybe I can contribute

Manu: We just need to be sure people are woking on it; I should ping Nathan again. We need two interoperable implementations

Ivan: At this moment, our concern is the document editing

Manu: I'm signing up for that

Ivan: Can you manage three documents?

Manu: Maybe
... depends on how much work it is
... it's only a temporary solution over the next couple of weeks
... Sebastian, would you be available for document editing?

Sebastian: Yes.

02Benjamin: what about these guys implementing rdfquery: http://code.google.com/p/rdfquery/people/list01

<Benjamin> Benjamin: Let's aks some guys from the rdfquery project: http://code.google.com/p/rdfquery/people/list

02Manu: Good idea

Sebastian: I will ask those guys02

<scribe> ACTION: Sebastian to ask the RDFQuery people if they want to get involved [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/05/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-80 - Ask the RDFQuery people if they want to get involved [on Sebastian Germesin - due 2011-06-02].

ACTION; Benjamin to ask Niklas Lindström if he wants to get involved

<scribe> ACTION: Sebastian to ask the RDFQuery people if they want to get involved [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/05/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-81 - Ask the RDFQuery people if they want to get involved [on Sebastian Germesin - due 2011-06-02].

<scribe> ACTION: Benjamin to ask Niklas Lindström if he wants to get involved [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/05/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-82 - Ask Niklas Lindström if he wants to get involved [on Benjamin Adrian - due 2011-06-02].

close action-81

<trackbot> ACTION-81 Ask the RDFQuery people if they want to get involved closed

Ivan: We have a model on how the tests work on the RDFa parts, nice and automatic; how would we do it with the javascripting part?

Manu: Don't know if we can do it in the same way
... qunit is better at testing APIs

Ivan: How do we report the results?
... hopefully automatic

Manu: We used to use EARL
... we'd have to do the same for the API

Ivan: we should talk to some of the other API WGs
... We need to check that the RDF and RDFa APIs are consistent
... We also need to plan dates for CR for Core and for XHTML+

Manu: Shane's working on it; he's been sick

Ivan: Administratively it is complicated
... and Summer is coming
... so we need to plan the dates now

Manu: OK I'll put priority on the last call comments and so on.

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: Benjamin to ask Niklas Lindström if he wants to get involved [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/05/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: Sebastian to ask the RDFQuery people if they want to get involved [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/05/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: Sebastian to ask the RDFQuery people if they want to get involved [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/05/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action02]
 
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