<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12792] Publish the polyglot 'Sample Page' as 'application/xhtml+xml' <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011May/1018.html> 4** [Bug 11526] newlines in attribute values <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011May/1017.html>
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12793] New: @scheme attribute conflicts with Dublin Core encoding scheme declarations <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011May/1020.html> 4** [Bug 12725] Document should be on the Note-track <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011May/1019.html>
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12794] New: [video] Add a non-normative note on how to provide text alternatives for media elements <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011May/1021.html>
<pimpbot> planet: Jesse Ruderman: 2011-05-25 Trunk builds <11http://www.squarefree.com/burningedge/2011/05/25/2011-05-25-trunk-builds/>
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12792] Publish the polyglot 'Sample Page' as 'application/xhtml+xml' <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011May/1022.html>
<pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 12793] @scheme attribute conflicts with Dublin Core encoding scheme declarations" (2 messages in thread) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011May/1025.html> 4** [Bug 12777] New HTML5 'context' meta tag [suggestion] <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011May/1023.html>
<pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 12793] @scheme attribute conflicts with Dublin Core encoding scheme declarations" (3 messages in thread) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011May/1026.html>
<pimpbot> planet: dherman: I’m worried about structured clone <11http://blog.mozilla.com/dherman/2011/05/25/im-worried-about-structured-clone/>
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12794] [video] Add a non-normative note on how to provide text alternatives for media elements <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011May/1027.html>
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12777] New HTML5 'context' meta tag [suggestion] <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011May/1028.html>
<pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 12777] New HTML5 'context' meta tag [suggestion]" (2 messages in thread) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011May/1029.html>
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12794] [video] Add a non-normative note on how to provide text alternatives for media elements <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011May/1030.html>
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12744] The crossdomain attribute named as such may prove an attractive talisman for copy-paste/cargocult authors, such that they start applying it on _any_ out of domain img regardless of CORS, especially when they see the no attribute string form <img crossdoma <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011May/1032.html> 4** [Bug 12786] testing ok, fine <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011May/
<pimpbot> planet: Robert Nyman: HTML5 is more than cool <11http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/robertnyman/~3/oNGhS7zFH7I/>
<pimpbot> changes: mike: flip back to ED <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011May/0183.html>
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12792] Publish the polyglot 'Sample Page' as 'application/xhtml+xml' <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011May/1033.html>
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12794] [video] Add a non-normative note on how to provide text alternatives for media elements <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011May/1034.html>
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12795] New: Shouldn't it be "ruby" on step 1? <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011May/1035.html>
<pimpbot> planet: Erica Jostedt: Mozilla Firefox, NVIDIA and YouTube Bring 3D HTML5 Video to the Web <11http://blog.mozilla.com/blog/2011/05/26/mozilla-firefox-nvidia-and-youtube-bring-3d-html5-video-to-the-web/> 4** Mounir Lamouri: Mozilla Tech Tour in Dakar <11http://blog.oldworld.fr/index.php?post/2011/05/Mozilla-Tech-Tour-in-Dakar>
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12790] Polyglot markup: WWW usecases + "alternative solutions that have been identified" <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011May/1036.html>
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12793] @scheme attribute conflicts with Dublin Core encoding scheme declarations <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011May/1037.html>
<pimpbot> planet: Jack Osborne: Injecting new life into the Doctor <11http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/html5doctor/~3/4CT2JKhyOHQ/>
<pimpbot> planet: deb: Feature List Changes: May 12-26 <11http://blog.mozilla.com/products/2011/05/26/feature-list-changes-may-12-26/>
<mjs> morning, folks
trackbot, start meeting
<trackbot> Date: 26 May 2011
<pimpbot> Title: {agenda} HTML WG telecon 2011-05-26 Actions, Calls, Publication, TF Reports, Decision Policy from Sam Ruby on 2011-05-25 (public-html-wg-announce@w3.org from April to June 2011) (at lists.w3.org)
<scribe> Scribe: Sam Ruby
<scribe> scribenick: rubys
action-193?
<trackbot> ACTION-193 -- Philippe Le Hégaret to and co-chairs to investigate how to handle standardization of websrt -- due 2011-05-26 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/193
<pimpbot> Title: ACTION-193: And co-chairs to investigate how to handle standardization of websrt - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
plh: we are making progress; I expect to have good news within a month
action-193 due in 1 month
<trackbot> ACTION-193 And co-chairs to investigate how to handle standardization of websrt due date now in 1 month
action-202?
<trackbot> ACTION-202 -- Michael[tm] Smith to reconcile W3C pubrules with editor's request to publish polyglot document in polyglot format -- due 2011-05-26 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/202
<pimpbot> Title: ACTION-202: Reconcile W3C pubrules with editors request to publish polyglot document in polyglot format - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
mjs: is mike on the call?
plh: I believe this was done
<MikeSmith> will be here
plh: you can close that one, it was done
mjs: was this authorization specific to just the polyglot document
plh: not specific
mjs: it would be helpful to announce that to the group
<Zakim> MikeSmith, you wanted to comment about polyglot
plh: the one requirement would be that such document are published in polyglot format
mikesmith: the requirement to publish html5 documents in polyglot format is not something that I think will fly; I (mike) see this as a problem that needs to be resolved.
mjs: any other questions/comments?
none
3. Items Closed Last Week
none
4. Items Closing This Week
none
5. Items Closing Next Week
none
mjs: we have a break in the queue, but we are going to be firing up the process again
issue-30?
<trackbot> ISSUE-30 -- Should HTML 5 include a longdesc attribute for images -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/30
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-30: Should HTML 5 include a longdesc attribute for images - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
mjs: a few months ago, laura and
other folks submitted a request to reopen this previously
resolved issue, and they provided relevant new information and
a new change proposal
... at this state of the process, we are asking anyone who
wishes to do to submit alternate or counter proposals
... jonas has volunteered to do so; feel free to work with him
or prepare your own
issue-133?
<trackbot> ISSUE-133 -- Add a modal attribute to html5 to indicate a modal segment of the DOM (modal dialog) -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/133
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-133: Add a modal attribute to html5 to indicate a modal segment of the DOM (modal dialog) - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
mjs: this involve adding a
suggestion to add information to cover a pretty common
pattern.
... if anyone would like to prepare a counter proposal, either
with another way to address this or to argue that this should
not be addressed, now would be the time to do so
issue-153?
<trackbot> ISSUE-153 -- link type "external" either not useful or underspecified -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/153
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-153: link type "external" either not useful or underspecified - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
mjs: we currently have no proposals, if we don't get one within a month, we will close this without prejudice
issue-154?
<trackbot> ISSUE-154 -- "sidebar" might not be a proper use of a link relation -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/154
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-154: "sidebar" might not be a proper use of a link relation - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
mjs: again a one month deadline
for a proposal
... any questions or comments?
mjs: none
Publish three Working Drafts: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011May/0300.html
<pimpbot> Title: RE: CfC: Publish three Working Drafts from Paul Cotton on 2011-05-23 (public-html@w3.org from May 2011) (at lists.w3.org)
Publish 6 Last Call Working Drafts: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011May/0318.html
<pimpbot> Title: [html-chairs] WG Decision: 6 Documents proceed to Last Call from Sam Ruby on 2011-05-24 (public-html@w3.org from May 2011) (at lists.w3.org)
mjs: there has been a press
release. It is pretty exciting that we have gotten to this
milestone; though we still have plenty to do.
... everybody should be proud of themselves
... any questions or comments?
<Jack> hi
<Jack> ?
mjs: kris?
kris: we met last week as planned.
<krisk> Notes -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-testsuite/2011May/0003.html
<pimpbot> Title: RE: HTML Testing Task Force Conf Call Agenda 5/17/2011 from Kris Krueger on 2011-05-26 (public-html-testsuite@w3.org from May 2011) (at lists.w3.org)
krisk: we have agreement to move
to releasing the test suite on a release schedule
... there are some variations on how you can run the parser
tests
... there will be more information on the release schedule sent
out to the list
mjs: are the minutes accurate?
krisk: yes
janina: our various groups
continue working. We went through everything we were aware of
so far in support for last call.
... we have a page on that that we will maintain to help track
everything
<janina> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Work_Topics
<pimpbot> Title: Work Topics - HTML accessibility task force Wiki (at www.w3.org)
janina: the media task force is
making progress; we have proposals in work for long and short
text; video, etc.
... we are looking for someone with experience in clean
audio
... in this context it means audio without background
distractions (doors slamming, etc)
... we've put this previously on hold
... canvas is down to a handful of issues (some of which are
big)
... the text subteam does have a number of fires in the
oven
... we are going to take last call as an opportunity to review
our procedures
... we have a published consensus procedure that doesn't talk
about subteams
... we are also organization with WCAG and with PFWG for a top
to bottom review
... I think that's a fair overview
mjs: thank you janina
... any questions or comments?
mjs: in addition, there is a
third late breaking piece of news
... first other business item is decision updates and
plans
... I recently published an update and it has addressed a
number of comments that we have received
... at this point we are looking for comments as to whether the
changes that were made were ok, and on whether there are any
other things that need to be addressed
... once we clean out the list of issues, we plan to issue a
call for consensus
... next draft will be published on monday; after that point we
will project a final date
... next item: Feedback on written comments received in the
Last Call survey
... all drafts passes, all votes were pretty strongly in
favor
... the chairs did review all of the comments entered
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011May/0347.html
<pimpbot> Title: Responses to Last Call survey objections from Maciej Stachowiak on 2011-05-25 (public-html@w3.org from May 2011) (at lists.w3.org)
mjs: in most cases, the feedback
is simply to file a bug
... if anyone wants assistance entering their feedback, the
chairs will help or find a volunteer
... another significant set of input is that some of the drafts
should ultimately be published as a note
... it is not uncommon for this decision to be made after last
call; ultimately this will be a decision of the WG
... we think that the right first step is to file a bug
... I encourage everybody who filed a comment to look at that
document, you can simply search for your name
<mjs> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011May/0349.html
<pimpbot> Title: Re: Final decision on Issue-131 from Sam Ruby on 2011-05-25 (public-html@w3.org from May 2011) (at lists.w3.org)
mjs: finally, our third other
business item... issue 131 was closed
... Rich and Sam closed the loop on the changes made
... all of the pre-last call issues are now resolved, we now
have a clean slate
... any questions or comments?
julian: do we have a plan to
control changes to the editor's copy
... I don't think that new changes should go into the draft at
this point
mjs: we have a number of ways to
address this...
... first we have a general request to the editor to not add
new features; if there are borderline items don't add it
without discussing it with the working group or unless somebody
else asks for it
... the second part is the revert policy; we will continue to
follow that policy
... finally we have a number of bugs against the decision
policy to make this more clear
... sam and aryeh both have bugs entered on this topic
... there may be changes that people object to; in such cases
bring that to the attention of the list, file a bug, or make a
revert request
julian: thanks for the clarification that there is a request not to add new features
plh: yes, the goal is not to add
new features; we also welcome discussion on what should go into
the next edition
... there is a wiki page, but no clear plan on how to proceed
on that just yet
mjs: any other other business?
mjs: any volunteers?
<adrianba> i will scribe next week
mjs: thanks Adrian!
mjs: congrats again on getting all of our drafts to last call
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