<pimpbot> planet: Mike Marchak: Fridaygram <11http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/blogspot/Dcni/~3/Nj-L-D0-pFY/fridaygram_22.html>
<pimpbot> changes: sam: Issue-147 commit <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Apr/0108.html>
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11239] Canvas support accessible caret tracking independent of Focus Ring tracking <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Apr/0672.html>
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12565] New: This section should clarify whether the following code should work: 'document.getElementsByTagName("html")[0].setAttribute("manifest", "offline.manifest");' <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Apr/0673.html>
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11239] Canvas support accessible caret tracking independent of Focus Ring tracking <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Apr/0674.html>
<pimpbot> planet: A Googler: Getting smoother animated web content while reducing CPU usage <11http://blog.chromium.org/2011/03/getting-smoother-animated-web-content.html> 4** Ali Pasha: Fridaygram <11http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/blogspot/Dcni/~3/Nj-L-D0-pFY/fridaygram_22.html>
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12566] New: draft-ietf-httpstate-cookie published as RFC 6265 <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Apr/0675.html>
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12563] Make standard to play these codecs in <video> <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Apr/0678.html> 4** [Bug 12562] ARIA role example used as a conformance error is not a conformance error in HTML5 <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Apr/0677.html> 4** [Bug 12563] Make standard to play these codecs in <video> <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Apr
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<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12564] This, for me is definately the way to go with text tracks. Since the text is embedded in the media file "In-Band" it means the content never gets lost. This is how we treat audio with video and is how DVD treated text too. Some devices such as iOS may not <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Apr/0680.html>
<pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 12545] MEDIA CONTROLLER requires loop attribute for grouped multitrack" (2 messages in thread) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Apr/0683.html> 4** [Bug 12563] Make standard to play these codecs in <video> <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Apr/0681.html>
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<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12267] <video> Make video state transitions happen in the same task as firing events <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Apr/0684.html>
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12545] MEDIA CONTROLLER requires loop attribute for grouped multitrack <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Apr/0687.html> 4** "[Bug 12175] <video> the order of the loadedmetadata, loadeddata and suspend event is not defined" (2 messages in thread) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Apr/0686.html>
<pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 12545] MEDIA CONTROLLER requires loop attribute for grouped multitrack" (2 messages in thread) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Apr/0688.html>
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<pimpbot> changes: : Satisfy Peruvian beer sippers Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12500 <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Apr/0112.html> 4** : <video> example Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12437 <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Apr/0111.html> 4** : changes from ... to ... Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12436 <11http://lists.w3.org/Archive
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12500] "Previous Versions" not updated <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Apr/0693.html> 4** [Bug 12437] Change <video src="ogg"></video> to <video src="example.webm"></video> <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Apr/0692.html> 4** [Bug 12436] Fix heading in changelogs section <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Apr/0691.html> 4** [Bug 12435] remov
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<paulc> Good morning, Sam.
trackbot, start meeting
<trackbot> Date: 28 April 2011
<pimpbot> Title: RE: {agenda} HTML WG telecon 2011-04-28: ISSUE-152, Decisions, TF reports, Last Call schedule from Paul Cotton on 2011-04-27 (public-html-wg-announce@w3.org from April to June 2011) (at lists.w3.org)
<scribe> scribenick: rubys
paulc: there are none
paulc: there are none
issue-152?
<trackbot> ISSUE-152 -- Handling of additional tracks of a multitrack audio/video resource -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/152
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-152: Handling of additional tracks of a multitrack audio/video resource - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
paulc: the decision is later on the agenda
paulc: there are none
paulc: there are none
paulc: there are none
paulc: none; but we have an
impending survey
... on the HTML5 license
paulc: issue-152 was closed without prejudice
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Apr/0687.html
<pimpbot> Title: Working Group Decision on Issue-152 multitrack-media-resources: Closed without Prejudice from Sam Ruby on 2011-04-27 (public-html@w3.org from April 2011) (at lists.w3.org)
paulc: the editor has made a set of changes; and work continues via pursuing 5 bug reports
krisk: we met as planned on the 19th
<krisk> Notes -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-testsuite/2011Apr/0013.html
<pimpbot> Title: RE: HTML Testing Task Force Conf Call Agenda 4/19/2011 from Kris Krueger on 2011-04-28 (public-html-testsuite@w3.org from April 2011) (at lists.w3.org)
krisk: we are down to two bugs
and an approved test
... some discussion about harness changes (additive only)
... there is some discussion about the webapps testing
process
... some more submissions from ms2ger and henri
... still looking for feedback on the attribute reflection
tests
paulc: quantitative size of the test suite?
krisk: we have about a 1000 in submission plus another couple of thousand in the pipeline
paulc: the chairs will be providing a report to the AC in mid may, so if you can send a note to the WG after your meeting next week that summarizes the number of approved and pending test that would help
krisk: ok
paulc: any questions?
janina: media is very active (on
issue 152)... it seems that we are still very much on path for
the May deadline
... we believe that we are down to 4 items in work
... continuing to work the bugs
... we are working on a defined list of alternative media
types
... we are working on a canonical list of such types for
multiple groups; working on where and how such a list be
published (it has applicability outside of HTML5)
<janina> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Track_Kinds
<pimpbot> Title: Track Kinds - HTML accessibility task force Wiki (at www.w3.org)
<hober> mark watson?
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12544
<pimpbot> 1112544: jfoliot, P3, RESOLVED FIXED, 13MEDIA CONTROLLER requires track kind for in-band tracks
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12548
<pimpbot> 1112548: jfoliot, P2, NEW, 13MEDIA CONTROLLER requires onended event
<paulc> resolution of 12548 is pending
janina: not clear that we would
agree to proceed to last call unless these bugs are
resolved
... other activity relates to new features that showed up the
spec
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=11239#c26
<pimpbot> 1111239: schwer, P2, NEW, 13Canvas support accessible caret tracking independent of Focus Ring tracking
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12548] MEDIA CONTROLLER requires onended event <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Apr/0695.html> 4** [Bug 12547] MEDIA CONTROLLER requires readyState for grouped multitrack <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Apr/0698.html> 4** [Bug 12546] MEDIA CONTROLLER requires autoplay attribute for grouped multitrack <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Apr/0699.
<paulc> Proposed patch: http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/attachment.cgi?id=979
rubys: the change has not been made to the spec yet, it is just a proposed patch
paulc: we will cover this later in the agenda with 131
janina: we have a subteam looking at alternative text; they are on track for submitting a reconsideration request next week
paulc: one issue or several?
janina: plural
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Mar/0759.html
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-152 survey and Last Call schedule from Paul Cotton on 2011-03-31 (public-html@w3.org from March 2011) (at lists.w3.org)
paulc: issue 152 survey would
have run through tomorrow; instead we had everyone agree for
the editor to commit his text as a starting point
... working group members should be looking at the editor's
draft
<pimpbot> Title: HTML5 (at dev.w3.org)
paulc: editor was initially indicated that he couldn't implement the decision; the editor has posted a possible set of changes and they are under discussion
rubys: I'll also note that Rich posted a delta
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Apr/0657.html
<pimpbot> Title: Re: CP is incoherent, and the decision is a vague change to the CP from Richard Schwerdtfeger on 2011-04-26 (public-html@w3.org from April 2011) (at lists.w3.org)
<paulc> Editor's proposed patch: http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/attachment.cgi?id=979
paulc: initially the chairs didn't mark this bug properly; once this was corrected and brought to the editor's attention, it was promptly addressed
paulc: original plan was for the WG to review all but 152. The current editor's draft is dated yesterday.
<paulc> Editor's draft: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/ dated April 27
<pimpbot> Title: HTML5 (at dev.w3.org)
paulc: this contains all
decisions including 152 and 147, but does not include 131 nor
all of the bugs based on the change required for 152
... we need to have all of the material implemented by May 8th
(approximately 10 days from now)
janina: is this one stable and we should review it?
paulc: definitely
<paulc> ISSUE status page: http://dev.w3.org/html5/status/issue-status.html
<pimpbot> Title: Change Proposal Status (at dev.w3.org)
paulc: the above page links to all of the deltas and contains the status (in terms of needs verification)
janina: understood, thank you
http://intertwingly.net/tmp/html5-license-poll-v2.html
<pimpbot> Title: HTML5 license: Which license should be used for the W3C HTML5 specifications? - Preference Poll - Web-Based Straw-poll and Balloting System (at intertwingly.net)
<paulc> Paul's announcement of V2: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Apr/0666.html
<pimpbot> Title: Revised draft HTML5 license survey from Paul Cotton on 2011-04-27 (public-html@w3.org from April 2011) (at lists.w3.org)
paulc: we added an additional
question based on a request by Mozilla
... there were additional editorial changes
... we have several outstanding questions; in particular we
have asked for another option to be added:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Apr/0696.html
<pimpbot> Title: Mozilla Second Proposal for HTML5 Spec Licence from Gervase Markham on 2011-04-27 (public-html@w3.org from April 2011) (at lists.w3.org)
paulc: we didn't add MIT
previously as nobody had specifically requested
... we likely need a v3 draft of the license survey
... we want to strongly encourage everybody to participate in
this survey; this is not a call for objections, it is a
preference poll
janina: can you cc the task force?
paulc: I'll forward the announcement (in lieu of cross-posting)
janina: regrets for next week (PF is meeting F2F)
paulc: I'll volunteer to scribe if nobody else does...
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