<trackbot> Date: 06 April 2011

<cslye> Hi there. I won't be able to call in, so I will mostly lurk here on IRC.

who just joined?

vlad, we are getting a lot of noise from you. on a mobile phone?

(issues with spam filters blocking wg emails)

(tracker seems to have some issued tracking on www-font. works ok on public-webfonts-wg. systems team is investigating)

<scribe> scribenick: chrisl

disposition of comments

<jdaggett> url?

http://dev.w3.org/webfonts/WOFF/DoC/issues-lc-2010.html

for Change metadata section to use XMP

bert suggested to use xmpfor the extension

Vlad: seems very heavy for a rarely used key-value apir

ChrisL: agree

Resolved: reject

Wasteful to use four bytes to store an origLength

bert agreed there

A context-free grammar for WOFF would be nice

jdaggett: so much of css depends on the prose so we dont use the grammar. ask dbaron tobe sure

ChrisL: no implementor seems to want that

jdaggett: woff is a format with syntax .. cant see how a CFG would help

Vlad: agreed

resolved: reject call for a context free grammar

ChrisL: I responded on I18N-ISSUE-7: Paragraphs and inline content

Vlad: ok so action items

<scribe> ACTION: jonathan to add div and span to spec [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/04/06-webfonts-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-82 - Add div and span to spec [on Jonathan Kew - due 2011-04-13].

<scribe> ACTION: chris to add div and span to RNG [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/04/06-webfonts-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-83 - to add div and span to RNG [on Chris Lilley - due 2011-04-13].

ChrisL: (explains procedure for unreplied comments: nospecific timeout defined, just demonstrate best effort to get a response)

Vlad: ok and if we agreed with the comment we can assume agreement by default

ChrisL: two commentors, Bert and Richard are on staff so i can callthem and ensure we have a response

Vlad: looking at issue 18

18. license element text subelements

Vlad: thought we agreed there

http://dev.w3.org/webfonts/WOFF/DoC/issues-lc-2010.html

tal: this is one where i thought text element could be optional. have seen live fonts that do this
... willsend follow-up email

sylvain agreed http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-font/2010OctDec/0091.html

tal: saw some with no license info, just url. so in woff that would have @url and no text child

Vlad: spec says that element MAY have text child
... so its already optional

ACTION chris to add an example with license @uri and no text child, validate it

<trackbot> Created ACTION-84 - Add an example with license @uri and no text child, validate it [on Chris Lilley - due 2011-04-13].

Vlad: spec already modified

tal: ok, agreed that resolves my point

esolved: issue 18 license element text subelements closed, agree, commentor agrees

Vlad: ok so that is allthe comments we have for now

action items

http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/open

action-57?

<trackbot> ACTION-57 -- Jonathan Kew to respons on issue-14 -- due 2011-01-26 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/57

ChrisL: don't see a response from him

action-61?

<trackbot> ACTION-61 -- Chris Lilley to provide samples and respond to I18n -- due 2011-01-26 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/61

close action-61

<trackbot> ACTION-61 Provide samples and respond to I18n closed

action-82?

<trackbot> ACTION-82 -- Jonathan Kew to add div and span to spec -- due 2011-04-13 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/82

duplicate

close action-82

<trackbot> ACTION-82 Add div and span to spec closed

close action-73

<trackbot> ACTION-73 Edit WOFF faq with Johns text incorporating Vlad's corrections closed

action-74?

<trackbot> ACTION-74 -- Chris Lilley to update disposition of comments -- due 2011-02-16 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/74

<scribe> ongoing

action-76?

<trackbot> ACTION-76 -- Maciej Stachowiak to ask apple about proposed FO solution -- due 2011-02-23 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/76

Vlad; keepopen until discussed

action-77?

<trackbot> ACTION-77 -- Chris Lilley to propose at-risk wording -- due 2011-03-02 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/77

close action-77

<trackbot> ACTION-77 Propose at-risk wording closed

action-78?

<trackbot> ACTION-78 -- Chris Lilley to respond on Use of attributes for human readable text -- due 2011-03-23 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/78

<scribe> closed

close action-78

<trackbot> ACTION-78 Respond on Use of attributes for human readable text closed

Vlad: issue-25 is rejected

my action is to tell bert its rejected

action-79?

<trackbot> ACTION-79 -- Chris Lilley to respond on issue-25 -- due 2011-03-23 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/79

Vlad: thought I saw something

ChrisL: maybe tracker missed it. i willcheck

action-80?

<trackbot> ACTION-80 -- Chris Lilley to respond on issue-26 -- due 2011-03-23 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/80

action-81?

<trackbot> ACTION-81 -- Jonathan Kew to provide link for issue-34 -- due 2011-03-23 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/actions/81

authoring test suite

<tal> http://dev.w3.org/webfonts/WOFF/tests/AuthoringTool/Tests/testcaseindex.xht

tal: we added some clarification for authoring tools that do editing before woff conversion
... also clarified searchrange
... otherwise its done
... apart fromm a cvs problem

(discussion of cvs binary issues and config)

action chris to find out from mac users how to set binary in the commandline cvs

<trackbot> Created ACTION-85 - Find out from mac users how to set binary in the commandline cvs [on Chris Lilley - due 2011-04-13].

tal: other thing is, after last call changes to spec, look for new tests or remove no longer applicable tests
... for example xml;lang support

ChrisL: to be clear, that doesn't prevent us moving to CR. the test suite can be incomplete

Vlad: we are ahead of the game here

activity statement update

ChrisL: i will update to show we have a test suite and almost finished last call

adjourned

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Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webfonts-wg/2011Apr/0000.html
Found Date: 06 Apr 2011
Guessing minutes URL: http://www.w3.org/2011/04/06-webfonts-minutes.html
People with action items: chris jonathan