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RDFa Working Group Teleconference

24 Mar 2011

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Regrets
Steven, ShaneM, Knud
Chair
Manu
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benjamin

Contents


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RDFa Core 1.1 and XHTML+RDFa 1.1 2nd Last Call

<manu1> http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/track/products/8

<manu1> PROPOSAL: Close the following issues, official response was sent, multiple reminders to respond were sent to each comment submitter: ISSUE-46, ISSUE-66, ISSUE-67, ISSUE-69, ISSUE-70, ISSUE-72, ISSUE-73, ISSUE-74, ISSUE-76, ISSUE-78, ISSUE-79, ISSUE-80, ISSUE-81, ISSUE-82, ISSUE-84.

<manu1> +1

+1

<ivan> +1

<webr3> +1

<manu1> RESOLVED: Close the following issues, official response was sent, multiple reminders to respond were sent to each comment submitter: ISSUE-46, ISSUE-66, ISSUE-67, ISSUE-69, ISSUE-70, ISSUE-72, ISSUE-73, ISSUE-74, ISSUE-76, ISSUE-78, ISSUE-79, ISSUE-80, ISSUE-81, ISSUE-82, ISSUE-84.

manu: next issue is described on mailing list

<manu1> Subtopic: XML+RDFa spec bug

<manu1> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2011Mar/0100.html

<manu1> http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/sources/rdfa-core/#evaluation-context

<manu1> Step 13: the parent subject is set to the value of new subject, if non-null, or the value of the parent subject of the current evaluation context;

<webr3> step 6: "otherwise, if parent object is present, new subject is set to the value of parent object. Additionally, if @property is not present then the skip element flag is set to 'true';"

<manu1> Ivan: The tests are correct and the spec is consistent.

<manu1> Ivan: Separate concern - do we want to set the new subject to the document for XML+RDFa?

<manu1> Ivan: Concerned about adding this at such a late stage.

<markbirbeck> @manu1 Sorry but had a meeting forced on me. Can keep looking at IRC though, if I can help, or you need a vote or something. :)

<markbirbeck> Ok. Can see screen from where I'm sitting. :)

<manu1> PROPOSAL: XML+RDFa does not assume an about="" on the root element. If authors want to generate a triple, they must explicitly set the subject.

<webr3> +1

<ivan> +1

<manu1> +1

+1

<manu1> RESOLVED: XML+RDFa does not assume an about="" on the root element. If authors want to generate a triple, they must explicitly set the subject.

<manu1> Ivan: Do we want to resolve the issues that Mischa raised?

manu: URI references are string sequences of characters

<webr3> URI-ref = ../

the issue of mischa is: http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/track/issues/87

<webr3> "URI"

<webr3> IRI or URI (no reference)

manu: We should wait for Shane to be on the call for resolving this, if it is an editorial change.

<manu1> Ivan: This is editorial in my view

<manu1> Manu: I agree

ivan: The change is editorial, we should leave it to Shane in my view

<webr3> I agree too, editorial

benjamin: as far as i understood it, it seems to be editorial

manu: Any other open issues before the second last call?

the group is not aware of any open issues

<manu1> These are the documents we're asserting should go to 2nd Last Call:

<manu1> http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/sources/rdfa-core/

<manu1> http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/sources/xhtml-rdfa/

manu: Publication date will be march, 29

<manu1> PROPOSAL: RDFa Core 1.1 and XHTML+RDFa 1.1 should proceed into the 2nd Last Call with a publication date targeted at March 29th with a Last Call period of 3 weeks from the publication date.

<ivan> +1

<webr3> +1

+1

<manu1> +1

<manu1> markbirbeck, ping

<markbirbeck> Sorry...

<markbirbeck> +1

<manu1> Knud: +1 (http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2011Mar/0099.html)

<manu1> RESOLVED: RDFa Core 1.1 and XHTML+RDFa 1.1 should proceed into the 2nd Last Call with a publication date targeted at March 29th with a Last Call period of 3 weeks from the publication date.

manu: do we have to publish on the W3C blog?

ivan yes

RDFa API

RDFa API changes review

<manu1> http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/sources/rdfa-api/

<webr3> document.getItemsByType(type)

ivan: how do i know what types are availlable in the document

<ivan> document.getSubjects()

ivan: you need a method like that

<webr3> why does HTML not have that? document.getElementByID(id) how do I know the id's ?

<webr3> how do you know which rel's, classes etc?

ivan: For example I want to highlight the RDF triples in the document. But where do I start?

<webr3> use the RDF API??

<webr3> document.data.getItemsByWhatever( s , p , o )

<webr3> (leave all null to get all objects) :)

<webr3> it's just merging the functions .getItemBySubject(type) and .getItemsByProperty(property, optional value) together though? still cuts in two

<webr3> not the getElements... RDF API doesn't handle them, only RDFa api does

<manu1> http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/sources/rdfa-api/#document-data

<manu1> var obj = document.data.parse("http://example.com");

<manu1> document.data.rdfa.parse("http://example.com");

<manu1> var doc = CreateDocument(XMLHttpRequest("http://example.com"));

<manu1> doc.data.query(...);

<webr3> the keep can of worms closed approach :)

Summary of Action Items

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