<trackbot> Date: 08 March 2011

Appointment of the scribe

<scribe> Scribe: Mark

Approval of prior meeting minutes

http://www.w3.org/2011/02/22-soap-jms-minutes.html

No objections to approving the minutes

Review the agenda

Agenda approved as-is

Administrative items

We will defer the question of skipping next week's call until the end

Daylight saving starts in the US next week

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Topic Action Items

Eric: action-244 - CXF *does* support WSDL
... ( judging by the samples they have)
... (which use the extension elements)
... Will email the CXF list to confirm
... action-245 - Yves was initally negative, but t hat might be down to a misunderstanding... Eric is clarifying

Derek: action-222 - QA dept. will look at this later in April. They had some reservations about using CXF - would prefer to test with another vendor's product

Eric: TIBCO can sympathise - customers may prefer to see interoperability with a commercial product - bu tthen Progress's implementation is likely to be based on CXF
... Problems are likely to be logistic and bureaucratic

Moving to PR (via CR? & LC)

Format of implementation compliance report

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-soap-jms/2011Mar/0000.html

Mark: Gives overview of test report format

Eric: Tempted by XML and a stylesheet but don't want to over-engineer

action mark to produce a complete vesion of the test results template

<trackbot> Created ACTION-246 - Produce a complete vesion of the test results template [on Mark Phillips - due 2011-03-15].

Eric: Doesn't need to be super-formal - but it gives us a template to follow
... Once we have a template we should circle back to CXF to ask them if they'd submit a version (Eric can have a first stab at this)
... Main use for these documents would be as evidence of implementations to the W3C

Matthew: Some observations about the test suite...
... It's not always clear about the criteria for determining pass/fail
... For example, no complete WSDL documents
... Are the messages rough examples, or the precise message which must be sent received.... what if the ordering is different or additional elements are present

Eric: Don't want to overwork this, but if there are specific examples then please submit them

Matthew: OK, as IBM develops tests, WSDL will be developed... Could give that WSDL back to the test suite

Eric: We're not looking to test the SOAP, just the SOAP/JMS additions to the messages...

Matthew: Will submit issues to the group if defects are found in the tests (e.g. possible defect in Testcase 9)

Eric: Test changes have been following a slightly more lightweight process than spec. changes - we do not check the application of changes - so some defects may have crept in

Specification Issues:

Nothing new

URI scheme

Nothing new

AOB:

We will plan for a call next week - will be cancelled if nothing to say

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