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plus your two items
(richard has two agenda+ items)
Change the language tags article to say that now there is an extension defined, and describe it briefly
action is done "I hope"
Check on HTML5 language tag validator and send any comments
Ask HTML5 WG about still open bug process
<trackbot> ACTION-16 Ask HTML5 WG about still open bug process closed
Fire up the time of this conference Doodle poll
<trackbot> ACTION-17 Fire up the time of this conference Doodle poll closed
david: please put your votes in
Forward reply on widgets P&C defaultlocale to webapps
<trackbot> ACTION-18 Forward reply on widgets P&C defaultlocale to webapps closed
Query HTML5 about issue 88
<trackbot> ACTION-19 Query HTML5 about issue 88 closed
Remind everyone to review Unicode in XML for approval next week (16 February)
<trackbot> ACTION-20 Remind everyone to review Unicode in XML for approval next week (16 February) closed
Review techniques index pages to check that all the current links in the index point to the right place
conversation about adding $ to CSS
... several comments about it
... problem is that some keyboard layouts don't have $ symbol
add topic to agenda for next week
html issue 88 is pending html chair decision
addison: explains call with paul
richard: sent item to list asking
... got some comments from Martin
gwyneth: like the first sentence
<kennyluck> [[If you feel you really need to use these subtags, you should read the specification, rather than this article.]]
<scribe> chair: objections to publication?
<scribe> ACTION: richard: publish language tags article [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/02/16-i18n-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-22 - Publish language tags article [on Richard Ishida - due 2011-02-23].
<kennyluck> +1 the multicolor is a bit.... too shiny :)
david: colors might be difficult in terms of accessibility?
richard: shouldn't be a problem, and they are only cosmetic (you can read the article equally well without them)
richard: how to deal with search information in the correct language
 search engines typically ignore language declarations these days, and instead analyse the language of the page using their own algorithms. (This does not negate the value of declaring the language of your page, since that information can be used for purposes other than search engine retrieval.)
 the articles cited above refer to the use of meta elements to describe metadata about the language of the document. There have been discussions about the meta content-language element in the HTML5 Working Group recently. A decision is still pending, but it seems likely that that element will be removed from HTML5 (at which point we will rewrite our advice). There is no clear alternative way of specifying language-related metadata being proposed to
norbert: mention lang attribute
being used by screen readers (for example)
... so it is useful
richard: may need to reinforce
<kennyluck> +1 to mention how lang is used by other UAs
richard: that it is useful for some things
only one substantive change
richard: moved comments to www-international
addison: need to address charmod-norm
richard: next step is go to
Unicode Editorial committee
... in the meantime we would look at substantive changes
... some things not closed, e.g. <br> tag
addison: need to tell both unicode and the public that a revision is coming
norbert: mostly to update to
... a number of character tables
... do these need to be updated? were they checked?
richard: weren't going to address now?
norbert: would need to update lists with any new characters that fit
richard: put that to unicode
... let them decide if any characters should be "xml deprecated from birth"
<scribe> ACTION: addison: propose advancement of UTR#20 to publication based on our revision and noting that we plan a substantive revision [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/02/16-i18n-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-23 - Propose advancement of UTR#20 to publication based on our revision and noting that we plan a substantive revision [on Addison Phillips - due 2011-02-23].
david: still missing some people's votes
currently 1500UTC on Wednesday is the leader
scribe: that would be the current time
one more week to respond!!
nudge people not calling in because the time is inconvenient
matial: some comments on CSS3 writing-mode
addison: send them to public-i18n
for consideration as WG comments
... or send to www-style@ and www-international@ as personal comments
... or send to www-international@ just for consideration
richard: also use
public-i18n-bidi or public-i18n-cjk if appropriate
... remembered that...
... comments to HTML5 on bidi
richard: put in
... started creating new subsections in WG Note
... summarizing what happened in the end
... and in some cases for CSS also
richard: document currently
called "bidi requirements for html5"
... planning to add "... and CSS" to title