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<trackbot> Date: 12 January 2011
Yves: management team discussing
this afternoon about charter renewing
... I think it makes sense to have another LC step, but very
short, 2 weeks
... given the substantial changes made
... and so we give time to get more comments
Raphael: will this enable to have the RTSP part in the document?
Yves: the problem will be to get implementations
Davy: we have a server side implementation of RTSP
Yves: I think that separate note for RTSP would be better
Raphael: poll is controversial on
this aspect
... results are: http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/42785/rtsp-processing/results
Propose to accept the minutes of the last week telecon:
http://www.w3.org/2010/12/08-mediafrag-minutes.html
<davy> +1
+1
<Yves> +1
<davy> +1
<tomayac> +1
minutes accepted
ACTION-199?
<trackbot> ACTION-199 -- Raphaël Troncy to add a clarification text regarding the purpose of the grammar -- due 2010-11-24 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/199
close ACTION-199
<trackbot> ACTION-199 Add a clarification text regarding the purpose of the grammar closed
ACTION-200?
<trackbot> ACTION-200 -- Raphaël Troncy to send a proposal to close ISSUE-19 that consists in: clarification text + normative parsing algorithm -- due 2010-11-24 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/200
close ACTION-200
<trackbot> ACTION-200 Send a proposal to close ISSUE-19 that consists in: clarification text + normative parsing algorithm closed
ISSUE-19?
<trackbot> ISSUE-19 -- Parsing must be defined normatively in the MF spec itself -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/issues/19
Raphael: we cannot close this
issue yet
... Philip sent patches that I have to review
... and include them in the document
ACTION-196?
<trackbot> ACTION-196 -- Raphaël Troncy to address comments from the Media Annotations WG and draft a reply -- due 2010-11-09 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/196
ACTION-205?
<trackbot> ACTION-205 -- Silvia Pfeiffer to send the MF clarification text to the HTML mailinglist -- due 2010-12-15 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/205
close ACTION-205
<trackbot> ACTION-205 Send the MF clarification text to the HTML mailinglist closed
ACTION-206?
<trackbot> ACTION-206 -- Raphaël Troncy to reopen the MF bug in the HTML5 bug tracker -- due 2010-12-15 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/206
close ACTION-206
<trackbot> ACTION-206 Reopen the MF bug in the HTML5 bug tracker closed
Raphael: Ian has closed the bug
again
... he complains because we have 2 issues in one bug
... first issue, he replied
"For comment 10 issue 1: the spec already says as much as it needs to say on the
subject: "If either the media resource or the address of the current media
resource indicate a particular start time, then set the initial playback
position to that time and then seek seek to that time." (in the resource fetch
algorithm)
scribe: second issue, he replied
"For comment 10 issue 2: that's a browser UI issue and out of scope of specs
such as HTML.
See also http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10723
Yves: I agree with Ian for
comment on issue 1
... I suggest to defer to Silvia for comment on issue 2
Thomas: I think Ian is correct for issue 2
Raphael: Silvia indicates we
should open more bugs and would like to discuss them
... I suggest that Silvia mails the group which bugs she would
like we open
ISSUE-18?
<trackbot> ISSUE-18 -- RTSP processing of Media Fragments URI -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/issues/18
ACTION-207?
<trackbot> ACTION-207 -- Raphaël Troncy to setup a poll regarding the fact that RTSP will be discussed in a separate note -- due 2010-12-15 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/207
close ACTION-207
<trackbot> ACTION-207 Setup a poll regarding the fact that RTSP will be discussed in a separate note closed
Results of the poll: http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/42785/rtsp-processing/results
scribe: 4 are for a separate note and 3 for inclusion in the main spec
Yves, Thomas and Erik haven't replied yet
Yves: I abstain
Thomas: I don't have an opinion on this (lack of knowledge of RTSP), so I abstain as well
Raphael: from the comments, the
main fear is to delay the process ... but it seems we will have
another LC anyway
... so I will rephrase the question: who is really *against*
having this part in the main spec?
Yves: my main concern is the
delay to get the implementations of this part
... but this is not a main concern
<scribe> ACTION: Davy to add the RTSP processing section as an appending to the main document [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/01/12-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-210 - Add the RTSP processing section as an appending to the main document [on Davy Van Deursen - due 2011-01-19].
Raphael: content to add is at
http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/UA_Server_RTSP_Communication
... I will ask ALL to commit to a date where we are all here
for inviting Addison to a telecon
Raphael: NEC is a new member in
the group
... one representant suggest a new use case, see
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2011Jan/0005.html
Silvia: good use case but no more requirements that what we have
Davy: perhaps he wants to have 2
regions in one URI ?
... perhaps he wants moving regions too
Raphael: perhaps we could adapt our text in the UC document with this new input
ACTIOn-209?
<trackbot> ACTION-209 -- Davy Van Deursen to convert TCs from the wiki to an RDF version -- due 2010-12-15 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/209
Davy: I'm working on it, hope to
finish it by next week
... I'm also working on an HTML visualization so we don't have
to look at the RDF
<tomayac> (did everybody leave the call?)
Davy: we will need an entire
telecon about test cases to re-review them later on
... include-setup has been added in the meantime
[silence]
meeting adjourned
<tomayac> same here