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<trackbot> Date: 20 December 2010
<scribe> scribe: Rich
Rich: Most things will be on hold until Microsoft can attend and answer their questions
Charles: Microsoft is mainly concerned about IFrame
Rich: do you think that aria-invalid and aria-selected meet our needs?
Charles: yes for aria-invalid as
... aria-selected is is not fully defined
... David bolter's use of Mark's make sense
... but what about cursor?
... What about SVG?
... I like to know I can serialize everything through the layers
... Now with Canvas I know I can do everything mainly because we have a 2D API for establishing the screen position but SVG, how might we serialize it?
Rich: Because SVG mixes content and presenation
Charles: there is some provision for CSS positioning
Charles, It may be as simple in 1.1 where we might have a cursor role
Charles: where is the focus ring in anything
Rich: SVG focus is well defined but different
Rich: do they have a draw path?
... you could that if I were focused on a path
Rich: we need to work on this with SVG
Charles: I think we have a very strong proposal for canvas.
Rich: So, we need an ARIA 1.1 to
establish the scenario for aria-selected being applied to text
and host language markup.
... as a global property
Rich: Let's push for an ARIA
... We need to do some implementations but other than that I think we are OK
Charles: Microsoft is moving forward with global composition modes. It means I want to have XOR, etc. It will be in the next preview.
Rich: I think we need to make sure AT's support support aria-invalid for other elements
Charles: I think it would not
work for text area tags but it would for <divs>
... I will try to do this with spelling and grammar errors in the canvas subdom
Rich: we can tell authors that if
they want to make RTE accessible in canvas you need to use the
aria markup for selection and invalid content vs.
... where we can't get the API in place to expose grammar and spelling errors
Charles: I hope this is a step to infuencing contenteditable's implementation
Rich: we can get selection and
caret information from text fields albeit IE and the rest of
industry are inconsistent
... no meeting until January 10, 2011
<scribe> meeting: W3C HTML 5 Canvas Accessibility Working Group
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