HTML-A11Y telecon

15 Dec 2010

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Janina, John_Foliot, Eric_Carlson, Judy, +61.2.801.2.aacc, silvia
Sean_Hayes, Geoff_Freed
John_Foliot, JF


<janina> agenda: this

Identify Scribe

<JF> hello

<janina> scribe: John_Foliot

<JF> scribe: JF

Actions Review http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/open

JS: the one issue we have is assigned to Sean, who is regrets this week

Candidate Formats Report http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/TextFormat_Pros_Cons_Overview#Summary_o

JS: Silvia is very concerned about the language - is politically loaded

this is/was not our intent

would like to give her the opportunity to tweak the language before we forward that document

JB: suggests that "at an early stage" is not as prejudicial as immature

[looking to see if Silvia is able to join us today]

JS: suggesting to set this aside for now

Sean said that Frank would have attend last week's call - no issue. Geoff was happy with the document, but silvia had significant issues and we want to ensure that those issues are/were addressed

EC: impression was that the wording in the TTML section was political (+ the reference to immature for WebSRT)

JB: it would be a shame after all this work to not have a good result as we close to the end
... we should take a try at addressing those concerns, and then give Silvia a 24-hour time-period to comment or equiv.
... it has been noted that we have looked at issues thta have strayed from 'pure' accessibility issues

and that this seems to be the issue here

JS: agrees that dropping lack of endorsement as a criteria, believe that Adoption and w3C standard are factual and non-political. Change immature to still under development

<janina> Yeah, Silvia!

JB: sorting out our own understanding on language issues, then focus in to ensure we have agreement

SP: basid issues is that most of the arguments are not technical but political

<Judy> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Dec/0110.html

SP: concern is that it dilutes the technical issues


JB: it is important that we use neutral wording

we should apply an 'objectivity' filter

[collectively working on edits to the Pros/cons document]

JB: perhaps the labeling is what is giving us the troubles: Pros and Cons

Presentation Profile of TTML http://www.w3.org/ns/ttml/profile/dfxp-presentation

reference to Basic Profile however this is no actual "Basic" profile - would like a link and use the proper name

SP: I have looked at the profiles in TTML

Transformation Profile is not fully supporting our needs

JB: would like to suggest some labeling ideas

for Con change to Work Needed

discussion of labelling

[the members of the call have been suggesting minor edits to the document, which is being edited in real time and the reveiwed]

<silvia> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/TextFormat_Comparison_Overview <- new doc

JB: 2 final questions on the editing process we've undergone?

1) are there any other squarepegs we've missed

2) for those who were unable to join us, can we get a 24 hour window for them to respond to these edits?

Media Queries on Track http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Dec/0145.html

RESOLUTOIN: ask the missing participants to comment by Friday Dec. 17th noon Boston. If no controversy then post, else finalresolution via the mailing list.

RESOLUTION: ask the missing participants to comment by Friday Dec. 17th noon Boston. If no controversy then post, else finalresolution via the mailing list.

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Summary of Action Items

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