<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11261] Bogus reference to CDATA attributes <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Dec/0305.html>
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11505] New: the problem i try to solve is spam pop ups and aggressive spam page authoring (which ban you from going backward and is obviously made up for banks and exploited by spammers). my idea is to depreciate (not allow) pop ups and also the annoying backward bro <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Dec/0306.html>
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11261] Bogus reference to CDATA attributes <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Dec/0307.html>
<pimpbot> planet: <GAME_ON> 2010: +150 gamer geeks pack out London <11http://mozillalabs.com/gaming/2010/12/09/game_on-2010-150-gamer-geeks-pack-out-london/>
<pimpbot> planet: Firefox/Gecko Delivery Meeting Minutes: 2010-12-08 <11http://blog.mozilla.com/meeting-notes/archives/450>
<pimpbot> planet: sideshowbarker: @paul_irish the flood of @html5 tweets was an unintended side effect of getting a mirror of the spec sources set up at bitbucket. sorry… <11http://twitter.com/sideshowbarker/statuses/10942345147060224>
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11506] New: i'd love to be able to comment but as this page has never fully loaded and shut down my computer each time i've tried ...there goes again. good work w3 <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Dec/0308.html>
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11506] i'd love to be able to comment but as this page has never fully loaded and shut down my computer each time i've tried ...there goes again. good work w3 <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Dec/0309.html>
<pimpbot> planet: hober: @shelleypowers which is to say: there is no vast, browser-wing conspiracy. /cc @glazou #html5 <11http://twitter.com/hober/statuses/12610185621151744> 4** brucel: RT @stshank: In hardware-based WebM decoding news: http://bit.ly/elOZgC #html5 <11http://twitter.com/brucel/statuses/12502051888046081> 4** brucel: Due to a protocol vulnerability Web Sockets will be behind a preference in Opera 11. Hopefully protocol gets fixed fast. via @an
<pimpbot> planet: paul_irish: @getify awesome headers post today. do you think theres anything we can bake into the html5boilerplate apache config as a default? <11http://twitter.com/paul_irish/statuses/12676351010021376> 4** beverloo: WebKit now supports the "hidden" attribute http://goo.gl/PkekV #HTML5 #WebKit <11http://twitter.com/beverloo/statuses/12265858529234944> 4** zcorpan: Pop Quiz: How Many Mistakes Can You Find In http://dev.w3.org/html5/html-xhtm
<MikeSmith> issue-133?
<trackbot> ISSUE-133 -- Add a modal attribute to html5 to indicate a modal segment of the DOM (modal dialog) -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/133
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-133: Add a modal attribute to html5 to indicate a modal segment of the DOM (modal dialog) - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
<pimpbot> planet: brucel: Lifehacker interview me about #html5. I use bad language (but I was in Australia), and I'm nice about Flash. http://bit.ly/gPoR0I <11http://twitter.com/brucel/statuses/12773017021063168>
<pimpbot> planet: Can HTML5 apps pass information to Paypal? <11http://doctype.com/html5-apps-pass-information-paypal>
<pimpbot> planet: brucel: I'm talking on #html5 multimedia at Web Directions, UK in May. Buy tix before end of year to avoid VAT increase http://bit.ly/idDsgs #wdx <11http://twitter.com/brucel/statuses/12853443785920512>
<pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11508] New: suboptimal CDATA example <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Dec/0311.html> 4** [Bug 11507] New: entities reference too broad <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Dec/0310.html>
<pimpbot> changes: sam: One survey done, another started, and a change proposal received <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Dec/0036.html>
<MikeSmith> issue-122?
<trackbot> ISSUE-122 -- alt text and description for Lady of Shalott example -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/122
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-122: alt text and description for Lady of Shalott example - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
<MikeSmith> bug 9452?
<pimpbot> 11http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9452 silviapfeiffer1, P2, ASSIGNED, 13Handling of additional tracks of a multitrack audio/video resource
<MikeSmith> issue-122?
<trackbot> ISSUE-122 -- alt text and description for Lady of Shalott example -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/122
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-122: alt text and description for Lady of Shalott example - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
<pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 9452] Handling of additional tracks of a multitrack audio/video resource" (2 messages in thread) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Dec/0314.html> 4** [Bug 11261] Bogus reference to CDATA attributes <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Dec/0312.html>
<pimpbot> planet: stevefaulkner: enjoying being back on the #W3C HTML A11Y taskforce calls with @oedipusnj et al. #html5 #accessibility <11http://twitter.com/stevefaulkner/statuses/12902193359233025>
<mjs> hi everyone
<mjs> the telecon may start a few minutes late today
<mjs> apparently all of northern california has a giant fog bank covering it today
trackbot, start meeting
<trackbot> Date: 09 December 2010
<mjs> rubys: I'll be dialing in approximately 5 minutes (commuter shuttle is behind schedule)
<mjs> I have the agenda up so I'll be ready to go as soon as it arrives
mjs: ok...
<scribe> scribenick: rubys
<paulc_> paulc is on mute
<paulc_> FYI, waiting for MJS to arrive to chair meeting.
<paulc_> Waiting for mjs who is on a commuter shuttle which is behind schedule.
<paulc_> Lost my phone connection.
<eliot> me too
<paulc_> Possibly, it will no answer.
ACTION-190?
<trackbot> ACTION-190 -- Michael(tm) Smith to fix pubrules problems with "author-only" view of the HTML5 specification -- due 2010-12-10 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/190
<pimpbot> Title: ACTION-190: Fix pubrules problems with "author-only" view of the HTML5 specification - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
plh: Mike is not here, he hasn't done it, but it won't hold up publication
mjs: that's all of the status we need to know
mjs: there are none
mjs: none
<mjs> rubys: I think you just muted me
issue-128?
<trackbot> ISSUE-128 -- Authors should be able to use <figure> where <img> can be used -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/128
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-128: Authors should be able to use where can be used - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
mjs: closed on December 8
issue-124?
<trackbot> ISSUE-124 -- nofollow/noreferrer not allowed on <link> -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/124
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-124: nofollow/noreferrer not allowed on - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
mjs: alternate proposals due december 10
issue-130?
<trackbot> ISSUE-130 -- allow tables to be used for layout purposes -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/130
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-130: allow tables to be used for layout purposes - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
mjs: also due dec 10
issue-132?
<trackbot> ISSUE-132 -- Drop the color input type -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/132
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-132: Drop the color input type - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
mjs: also due dec 10
issue-133?
<trackbot> ISSUE-133 -- Add a modal attribute to html5 to indicate a modal segment of the DOM (modal dialog) -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/133
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-133: Add a modal attribute to html5 to indicate a modal segment of the DOM (modal dialog) - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
issue-137?
<trackbot> ISSUE-137 -- Since Javascript does not support mode specifiers inside the regular expression, there is no simple way of matching a single word case-insensitively besides turning into [Ww][Oo][Rr][Dd] -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/137
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-137: Since Javascript does not support mode specifiers inside the regular expression, there is no simple way of matching a single word case-insensitively besides turning into [Ww][Oo][Rr][Dd] - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
mjs: above are all due december
10... for many we have not received a proposal. If you wish to
make a proposal, please do so now.
... comments, questions?
mjs: none
... 118 survey will be covered later in the agenda
mjs: lots, all due in January
issue-120?
<trackbot> ISSUE-120 -- Use of prefixes is too complicated for a Web technology -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/120
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-120: Use of prefixes is too complicated for a Web technology - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
mjs: raised against the RDFa spec
ISSUE-135?
<trackbot> ISSUE-135 -- put back direct link to the W3C version of the canvas 2d context spec -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/135
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-135: put back direct link to the W3C version of the canvas 2d context spec - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
mjs: there has been some discussion of this item on the list, and the recent update to the wiki may, for some people, be sufficient to resolve this issue
issue-139?
<trackbot> ISSUE-139 -- HTML5 spec mentions Microdata in Acknowledgements -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/139
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-139: HTML5 spec mentions Microdata in Acknowledgements - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
There is a micro data ack that appears in the html5 spec rather than the microdata spec
issue-140?
<trackbot> ISSUE-140 -- clarify the applicability of the term "conforming document" in cases where "applicable specifications" had been used to augment or change the base HTML5 specification -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/140
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-140: clarify the applicability of the term "conforming document" in cases where "applicable specifications" had been used to augment or change the base HTML5 specification - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
mjs: Noah described his concerns in the TPAC
issue-141?
<trackbot> ISSUE-141 -- Allow definition lists to markup dialogue -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/141
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-141: Allow definition lists to markup dialogue - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
mjs: was previously given as an example in HTML4
issue-143?
<trackbot> ISSUE-143 -- Remove the newly added "s" element -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/143
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-143: Remove the newly added "s" element - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
<paulc_> was dropped again
issue-129?
<trackbot> ISSUE-129 -- replace or modify the ARIA section of the HTML5 spec -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/129
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-129: replace or modify the ARIA section of the HTML5 spec - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
mjs: we have an initial proposal,
and we are asking for defense of the status quo or for a new
proposal
... any questions or comments?
issue-118?
<trackbot> ISSUE-118 -- Specification breaks semantics of existing link relations "index" and "first" -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/118
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-118: Specification breaks semantics of existing link relations "index" and "first" - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
mjs: I suggest looking at the survey
issue-97?
<trackbot> ISSUE-97 -- Remove/Discard the Meter Element -- closed
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/97
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-97: Remove/Discard the Meter Element - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Dec/0056.html
<pimpbot> Title: Working Group Decision on ISSUE-97 meter from Maciej Stachowiak on 2010-12-08 (public-html@w3.org from December 2010) (at lists.w3.org)
mjs: any questions?
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2010OctDec/0019.html
<pimpbot> Title: {agenda} HTML WG Telecon 2010-12-09: status of actions, calls, new decisions from Maciej Stachowiak on 2010-12-08 (public-html-wg-announce@w3.org from October to December 2010) (at lists.w3.org)
mjs: at this time, all pre-lc bugs have been addressed
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9452
<pimpbot> 119452: silviapfeiffer1, P2, ASSIGNED, 13Handling of additional tracks of a multitrack audio/video resource
mjs: the chairs plans to mark this as NEEDSINFO and TrackerRequest
paulc: I explained in the task
force what we intend to do, and have already marked it as
TrackerRequest
... I volunteered to attend the media subteam calls
mjs: I set the status to NEEDSINFO
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Dec/0056.html
<pimpbot> Title: Working Group Decision on ISSUE-97 meter from Maciej Stachowiak on 2010-12-08 (public-html@w3.org from December 2010) (at lists.w3.org)
cynthia: where can I find decisions?
rubys: on the WG home page
mjs: No telecons on December 23rd
and December 30th.
... there will be a telecon on December 16, so only one more
before the break
... other items?
mjs: any volunteers?
paulc: I will chair
mjs: I will scribe
mjs: see you all next week
<eliot> thank you!
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