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<trackbot> Date: 08 December 2010
<raphael> Scribe: Davy
<raphael> scribenick: davy
<raphael> http://www.w3.org/2010/12/01-mediafrag-minutes.html
+1
<raphael> +1
<Yves> +1
minutes accepted
raphael: action 199 and 200 will
be finished today
... related to issue-19
... mail will be sent out today
Action-191?
<trackbot> ACTION-191 -- Yves Lafon to update the production rules of the time dimension with the npt format for making the hours optional -- due 2010-11-08 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/191
Yves: did the code, I'm working on the spec right now
<raphael> ACTION-202?
<trackbot> ACTION-202 -- Silvia Pfeiffer to draft the paragraph that the group will propose to HTML5 regarding how the control of media fragment URI should be done -- due 2010-12-01 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/202
<raphael> See text at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2010Dec/0009.html
<raphael> Raphael: do you have comments on this text?
<raphael> ... my only comment is whether we should further detail how temporal media fragments can work, with our without server help
<raphael> .. depending on the container format
<raphael> ... should we go into this level of details
<davy_> raphael: when no controls are specified in <video>
<davy_> ... the rendering is like the ?-approach
<davy_> raphael: is the text of silvia sufficient?
<davy_> ... and reopen the bug with this text
<davy_> Yves: nothing against it
<davy_> close action-202
<trackbot> ACTION-202 Draft the paragraph that the group will propose to HTML5 regarding how the control of media fragment URI should be done closed
<davy_> ACTION: silvia to send the MF clarification text to the HTML mailinglist [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/12/08-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-205 - Send the MF clarification text to the HTML mailinglist [on Silvia Pfeiffer - due 2010-12-15].
<raphael> Raphael: both whatwh and w3c mailing lists
<davy_> ACTION: troncy to reopen the MF bug in the HTML5 bug tracker [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/12/08-mediafrag-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-206 - Reopen the MF bug in the HTML5 bug tracker [on Raphaël Troncy - due 2010-12-15].
<davy_> raphael: action 196 will be done today
<davy_> close action-191
<trackbot> ACTION-191 Update the production rules of the time dimension with the npt format for making the hours optional closed
<raphael> List of open issues: http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/open
<Yves> done
<raphael> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/issues/open
<davy_> raphael: Issue-19 is taken care of
<davy_> raphael: difference between issue-13 and 20?
<davy_> no difference -> close issue 13
<davy_> close ISSUE-13
<trackbot> ISSUE-13 Write a IETF draft for proposing how to register the fragment scheme for all media types closed
<davy_> issue-18?
<trackbot> ISSUE-18 -- RTSP processing of Media Fragments URI -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/issues/18
<davy_> raphael: should we include this in the spec or not?
<davy_> yves: if we do that, we probably need another LC
<davy_> raphael: alternative could be putting this into an annex
<davy_> ... informative status
<davy_> Yves: better would be in another document (a note)
<davy_> ACTION: troncy to setup a poll regarding the fact that RTSP will be discussed in a separate note [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/12/08-mediafrag-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-207 - Setup a poll regarding the fact that RTSP will be discussed in a separate note [on Raphaël Troncy - due 2010-12-15].
<davy_> Issue-17?
<trackbot> ISSUE-17 -- Media Fragment track names and IRIs -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/issues/17
<davy_> Yves: or we close it because we don't know how to handle IRIs
<davy_> ... or we continue discussions
<raphael> reading the thread starting at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2010AprJun/0149.html
<davy_> raphael: I18N recommends us to use IRI as reference
<raphael> Key message: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2010AprJun/0153.html
<davy_> ACTION: troncy to ask today who will make it to the teleconf next week [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/12/08-mediafrag-minutes.html#action04]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-208 - Ask today who will make it to the teleconf next week [on Raphaël Troncy - due 2010-12-15].
<davy_> close action-208
<trackbot> ACTION-208 Ask today who will make it to the teleconf next week closed
<raphael> Raphael: both Erik and Davy cannot make next week telecon
<davy_> raphael: we will organize early in January a teleconf with everybody, joined by Addison Philips
<davy_> Issue-10?
<trackbot> ISSUE-10 -- Media Fragments Test Case Maintenance -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/issues/10
<davy_> raphael: related to test cases
<davy_> issue-9?
<trackbot> ISSUE-9 -- Should we have the media type inside the Test Cases? -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/issues/9
<davy_> raphael: also related to test cases, we can ignore them for transitioning
<davy_> Action-167?
<trackbot> ACTION-167 -- Erik Mannens to find licence free movies for the automatic test suite ... starting with Elephant Dreams and the creative commons -- due 2010-06-02 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/167
<davy_> raphael: fine to use elephants dream and big bug bunny sequences
<davy_> ... so we can use these media resources in our demos and examples in the spec
<raphael> Movies to use:
<raphael> Sintel, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ac7KhViaVqc
<raphael> ... longer version, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRsGyueVLvQ
<raphael> Big Bunny, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSGBVzeBUbk
<raphael> The Elephant Dreams
<davy_> close action-167
<trackbot> ACTION-167 Find licence free movies for the automatic test suite ... starting with Elephant Dreams and the creative commons closed
<davy_> action-168?
<trackbot> ACTION-168 -- Davy Van Deursen to investigate how the automatic test suite could also be done for evaluating the UA behavior -- due 2010-06-02 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/168
<raphael> Raphael: presentation of test cases handling by Davy during the face to face meeting, http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/meetings/2010-11-01-f2f_lyon/
<raphael> Raphael: we have an exhaustive list of test cases for the time dimension on the wiki
<raphael> ... which has been reviewed by Conrad, Silvia, Jack and Philip
<raphael> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/TemporalDimension
<raphael> Davy: I'm happy to convert the information in the wiki into a RDF file
<raphael> ... this RDF file can then be the input of our test validation framework
<davy_> close action-168
<trackbot> ACTION-168 Investigate how the automatic test suite could also be done for evaluating the UA behavior closed
<davy_> ACTION: Davy to convert TCs from the wiki to an RDF version [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/12/08-mediafrag-minutes.html#action05]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-209 - Convert TCs from the wiki to an RDF version [on Davy Van Deursen - due 2010-12-15].
<davy_> [adjourned]
<raphael> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/TemporalDimension
<raphael> s/http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/TemporalDimension//