SOAP-JMS Binding Working Group Teleconference

02 Nov 2010

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padams, Derek, +1.781.280.aaaa, mphillip, eric, alewis


<trackbot> Date: 02 November 2010

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<trackbot> Meeting: SOAP-JMS Binding Working Group Teleconference

<trackbot> Date: 02 November 2010

Appointment of the scribe

<scribe> Scribe: Mark

Approval of prior meeting minutes


Minutes are approved without modification

Review the agenda

No amendments to agenda

Administrative items

DST changes - US adjusts clock this week so back to normal next time

Week of Thanksgiving in US: Amy will not be available, but all other attendees expect to be here

We will see prior to the call whether it is worth having a meeting

Between Christmas and New Year Eric Mark, and Peter will definitely not be available

RESOLUTION: We will not have a meeting between Christmas and New Year

Eric: Charter for the workgroup runs until end of 2010, so producing a PR before then would be advantageous, but the W3C may tolerate an extension as long as the group is making progress

Review action items

Eric: 181 is complete - http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-soap-jms/2010Nov/0000.html

close action-181

<trackbot> ACTION-181 Fix broken link on landing page closed

Eric: http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/actions/193 - would like to declare complete

we are on tract to declare provisional URI

close action-193

<trackbot> ACTION-193 Investigate provisional uri process and how we would move forward after that closed

Eric: http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/actions/218 - has sent proposal for variant registry to mailing liost


close action-218

<trackbot> ACTION-218 Report back to the group on options for IANA registration of JMS variants closed

Specification Issues

No new issues

Moving to PR (via CR? & LC)

Eric: What do we need to do for test cases?

Peter: Will check the test cases are up to date

action peter to check the test cases are up to date

<trackbot> Created ACTION-219 - Check the test cases are up to date [on Peter Easton - due 2010-11-09].

Eric: Any updates to the FAQ?

action Eric to review the FAQ

<trackbot> Created ACTION-220 - Review the FAQ [on Eric Johnson - due 2010-11-09].

Eric: Shall we get the PR version of the doc ready?
... Need to update the status of the document, change the URIs etc.
... Suggest we wait a week or two then take an action to create a new PR copy
... Next step is getting two implementations

Peter: Does IBM WAS support JAX-WS

Phil: Yes, it does

Peter: So that might be the closest option - tesing the WAS server against a CXF client

Derek: How would this work - set up VPN to a common server?

Eric: Should be sufficent to use (open source) CXF talking to another implementation, to work through the test cases
... It is sufficent for us to assert to the W3C that the tests have been run and passed

Derek: Wouldn't it be better to have a portable test suite / WSDL etc. that all vendors could run

Phil: We agreed that we'd define the test suite but not create a common implementation of the tests

Peter: Should be possible to plug vendor's JMS implementations into CXF so that CXF test suite can talk to 3rd party vendors
... Using the CXF test suite is straightforward if you know Maven and can buid

Discussion on allocation of test work

action Peter to send some orientation material on getting started and running CXF SOAP/JMS tests to Phil

<trackbot> Created ACTION-221 - Send some orientation material on getting started and running CXF SOAP/JMS tests to Phil [on Peter Easton - due 2010-11-09].

Derek: Are the CXF test cases a full implementation of the SOAP/JMS tests?

Peter: Yes - apart from WSDL 2.0

<padams> Phil needs to drop off the call... I'll assume an action item for me will be created for looking into the testing of WAS and CXF... see you all next week :)

action Derek to review the CXF tests to see if they can be tested against a Software AG implementation

<trackbot> Created ACTION-222 - Review the CXF tests to see if they can be tested against a Software AG implementation [on Derek Rokicki - due 2010-11-09].

action Phil to Look into building and running the CXF tests against WAS

<trackbot> Created ACTION-223 - Look into building and running the CXF tests against WAS [on Phil Adams - due 2010-11-09].

URI scheme

IETF is starting a new working group to take one-off RFCs like ours and help them through the process

Eric: IETF is closed for submitting new drafts until next Monday
... Will aim to have a new draft for submission next week.
... Has discussed IETF copyright with Oracle - still trying to progress this issue
... There is an IETF apps mailing list where this is discussed




Summary of Action Items

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