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<trackbot> Date: 05 October 2010
<scribe> SCRIBE: gpilz
RESOLUTION: Agenda approved with no changes
RESOLUTION: minutes of 2010-09-28 approved
-Issue-10960 MEX: Eventing: MaxExpires assertion needs a min value http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10960
Bob: Doug has not joined the call yet
RESOLUTION: new issue opened http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10960
Bob: should we wait for Doug to discuss?
Bob: ODT is easy to convert to
... ODT can also be saved in .doc form
... let's use tool-neutral formats just to keep the peace
<Bob_> bob waves at katy & dug
<scribe> ACTION: gpilz to open issue on WS-Eventing and the "expiration feature" [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/10/05-ws-ra-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-168 - Open issue on WS-Eventing and the "expiration feature" [on Gilbert Pilz - due 2010-10-12].
<scribe> ACTION: primers for MEX, Transfer, Frag due on the 19th [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/10/05-ws-ra-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - primers
<scribe> ACTION: Doug - primers for MEX, Transfer, Frag due on the 19th [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/10/05-ws-ra-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-169 - - primers for MEX, Transfer, Frag due on the 19th [on Doug Davis - due 2010-10-12].
Yves: primers should be W3C "Notes"
<scribe> ACTION: gpilz - primer for Eventing due on 2010-10-19 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/10/05-ws-ra-minutes.html#action04]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-170 - - primer for Eventing due on 2010-10-19 [on Gilbert Pilz - due 2010-10-12].
<W3C> what is doug's issue number
Note, a subscription expiring as expected is not considered to be an unexpected termination, therefore a SubscriptionEnd message MUST NOT be sent in this case.
<Bob_> q Dug
<Tom_Rutt> If pt0s means "as long as possible", then it is a valid return value. However, as Wu said, any killing of that subscription should have the end message, since it is ending at less than infinity.
If the event source terminates a subscription unexpectedly, and it supports the use of the EndTo EPR, and the EndTo EPR was present in the Subscribe message for that subscription (see 4.1 Subscribe), the SubscriptionEnd message MUST be sent to the endpoint reference indicated by that EPR, if possible.
<Tom_Rutt> I think it is important to distinguish "do not care how long the subscription is alive" vs "keep it alive as long as possible"
<Bob_> shall we keep the subscription alive even if it is in a vegatative state?
freeze its head
Ram: typo in the WS-Enumeration
... Doug said he would treat it as an editorial issue
Bob: any objections to editors making this correction?
RESOLUTION: editorial issue resolved
Bob: next telecon will be October
... we should start planning a F2F for testing
... In Jan we've picked up most of the implementations
... nearly the full set in January
Ram: would like end of January
Bob: week of Jan 24th?
Ram: I'm available. I'll confirm my product teams availability.
Bob: does anybody see any major conflicts?
Doug: I won't be able to tell until I get to my hotel
Bob: declaring Boston out of bounds
Dave: that week is out for me
Bob: somewhere in the U.S., somewhere south central or west coast
Gil: I might be able to host in Redwood Shores (or maybe S.F.)
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