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<scribe> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mw4d/2010Sep/0008.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mw4d/2010Sep/0001.html
max: premise of the document: operators can help improving a service
example: shortcodes for SMS services
we called that enablers because it helps provider to make services or tools more successful
nicolas: high level question: where do we want to go ?
examples of successful cases ? or identifying barrier entrepreneurs are facing ?
enablers are only one part
nicolas: star cases are helpful
very hard to identify what works or not
<NicolasC> def business model: http://www.mediawerk.ch/nerve/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/picture-1.png
shwetank: distribution channel is critical
how a service is distributed to users ?
nicolas: value proposition: what kind of service are you delivering
on right: everything related to customers
to whom you sell your apps.
customer relationship: how to you reach your customer
(marketing, etc)
distribution: how you deliver the service
key resources: what you need to do: costs etc
key activities: what need to be done
nicolas: missing star cases
that can be described with this canvas
shwetank: how do we collect data ?
nicolas: good question
how to we idenitfy star cases
nicolas: a star case==a case that reached sustainability
<shwetank> maybe to propose companies to the list, and agree by consensus on which ones to focus as a star case?
nicolas: do we star cases ?
steph: related to technologies ?
nico: not really
... starts from examples of services people succeeded to make sustainable
... ask people on the list
<betty> possible star cases: m-pesa, WAP application to download
betty: m-pesa and dowload music are very positive
<betty> download music, facebook mobiles
<scribe> ACTION: Nicolas to launch discussion on the mailing-list about business model star cases [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/09/13-mw4d-minutes.html#action01]
<betty> I agree with Stephane.
stephane: difference between services driven by an operator and those by an individual
nicolas: difference not that clear
shwetank: +1 to Nicolas
http://www.w3.org/2008/MW4D/wiki/Mw4d_impact
betty: based on itu framework for ict readiness
<betty> Wider mobile networks & cheaper mobile Internet tariff (mobile Web readiness) --> more mobile Web use --> more job offer for entrepreneurs or more knowledge resource for students, but more expense to purchase handsets & air time, more business opportunities for people selling handsets & airtime, more opportunities for mobile web application development (mobile Web impact, case studies) --> more mobile Web programming training (mobile Web readiness capacity),
<betty> more collaboration among researchers, mobile phone industry, policy makers (mobile Web readiness)
steph: three quesiton
mobile web ? browsing ?
betty: using http, so mobile browsing
steph: how do you measure social impact ?
betty: some indicators reflect that: like how much you get more
steph: bootstrapping conditions ?
i don't believe that infrastructure
betty: infrastructure, tariff
familiarity
stephane: content ?
betty: wikipedia can be a bootstrap
steph: next steps ?
indicators ?
betty: will propose a table of indicators
shwetank: will be happy to look at statistics how the impact of ict: like number of bank account in rural areas
betty: quantitative statistical data is great
will be great to get such data
shwetank: might be good to break down by domain
metric per domain is good
betty: sounds good
<scribe> ACTION: betty to sumarize the discussion on the list and bootstrap discussion on impact analysis* [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/09/13-mw4d-minutes.html#action02]
<shwetank> wfm
Next Meeting: October 4 to talk about business model and tools, impact for the enxt one
