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<laurent_lefort_cs> Scribenick: Michael
<laurent_lefort_cs> Michael: work on the DOLCE alignment plus adding the definitions
<laurent_lefort_cs> ... Michael has done a pass on the definitions imported from elsewhere
<laurent_lefort_cs> ... Make them more consistent across the board
just give me a tick, back in a sec
<laurent_lefort_cs> Laurent: comments on changes on the way we use dc:source.
<laurent_lefort_cs> ... we now put the text and the url together.
sorry, back now
accelerometer, 4 measurement ranges 4 frequencies. Plus an example of accelerometer attached to a knife
the knife is the platform and feature of interest.
<Payam> can you add the link here please
<Payam> found it; http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Special:ListFiles
<laurent_lefort_cs> Andriy: we may need examples with other capabilities (precision and accuracy)
Payam: XG's doco should point out what's possible beyond the examples.
<krzysztof_j> depends on which version you use
Krzysztof: feature of interest should be connected to other things.
<Payam> possibly I have used an old version
Krzysztof: what are the meanings on the diagram
Laurent diagram drawn with CMAP
Laurent: 'is a' types an
... 'are' is subclass
<laurent_lefort_cs> Laurent: explaining the graphical conventions used by CMAP
<laurent_lefort_cs> ... the arrow "are" corresponds to rdfs:subClassOf
<laurent_lefort_cs> ... the arrow "is a" corresponds to rdf:type (instance to class relation)
<laurent_lefort_cs> Let's look at other examples:
<krzysztof_j> ack to michael
Michael: We all had problems interpreting these diagrams, is that a problem for the documentation?
Laurent: lots of people use this.
Krzysztof: the diagram puts 'is
a' with a different meaning to how OWL uses this
... can we change this
<krzysztof_j> is a = instance-of and are = is a, right?
Laurent: no we can't change
... yes it might be confusing but tool had advantages: easy to move things around in diagrams, remove things,
Laurent: so can make diagrams that map to intuition of ontology.
Payam: agree the blue lines are
... what was sent earlier today (Raul) is an option
<Payam> or perhaps Raul's version and the current diagrams can be complementary
<krzysztof_j> why not jambalaya?
Pramod: does the example use units?
Andriy: yes the ontology example has units restricted e.g. the numbers are restricted to gravity
Laurent: summary: we have example with measurement capability and observation that links to feature of interest
<laurent_lefort_cs> Example by Payam: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/File:SSNSample.jpg
Laurent: also second example from Payam
Payam: it has measurement capability, data parts, features. added some classes (observation service...)
<krzysztof_j> (may also be an alternativ for the visualization http://protegewiki.stanford.edu/wiki/OntoGraf)
<Payam> OntoGraf doesn't show the property labels - or I couldn't fined how to do this
<krzysztof_j> you mean procedure?
<krzysztof_j> michael: you mean Procedure as subclass of method, right?
it's actualy called process in the ontology
Laurent: use payam's example for deployment etc, and Andriy's for measurement, need another for process
Payam: observation class ... should have link from sensor to observation
Michael: it's in the latest version
Laurent: I've been working on review
<laurent_lefort_cs> Adding references and putting everything into a single page
<laurent_lefort_cs> Payam and Cory's ontologies are less well covered than the others
Michael: DUL alignment meeting after this
<krzysztof_j> i will look for something
<krzysztof_j> but essentially we can copy only the direct super class into the figure
Laurent: Augmented reality email from the list
Laurent: explaining context
<krzysztof_j> sounds interesting
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