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<trackbot> Date: 18 August 2010
<fjh> ScribeNick: wmaslowski
<fjh> TPAC F2F
<fjh> WG questionnaire (for all), http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/43696/tpac2010dap/
<fjh> TPAC registration (for in-person attendees) http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TPAC2010reg/
<fjh> March F2F questionnaire (Seoul, Korea)
<fjh> http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/43696/seoul-f2f-dates/
<fjh> Contacts API WD published 17 August
<fjh> http://www.w3.org/TR/2010/WD-contacts-api-20100817/
<fjh> W3C Workshop on Privacy and data usage control 04/05 October 2010, Boston
<fjh> http://www.w3.org/2010/policy-ws/
<fjh> Approve 11 August minutes
<fjh> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2010Aug/att-0041/minutes-2010-08-11.html
<wmaslowski_> RESOLUTION: Minutes 11 Aug approved
<Fan_HU> I have been trying to dial in, but both UK and French number are busy, anyone experience the same problem?
<fjh> proposal - http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2010Aug/0051.html
<wmaslowski_> fjh: Can we update the requirements with the new proposal
<fjh> update - http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2010Aug/0057.html
<Suresh> +
<wmaslowski_> suresh: Wonders about if widgets/applications always run in 'trusted' mode
<fjh> untrusted widget - either not signed, or signed without trusted root
<wmaslowski_> RESOLUTION: Accept proposed update to policy requirements
<fjh> ACTION: fjh to update policy requirement with proposal [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/08/18-dap-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-254 - Update policy requirement with proposal [on Frederick Hirsch - due 2010-08-25].
<Suresh> perhaps we could name the category as "Untrusted web applications" or similar to be more generic
<wmaslowski_> ACTION: fjh Update the requirements [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/08/18-dap-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-255 - Update the requirements [on Frederick Hirsch - due 2010-08-25].
<fjh> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2010Aug/0054.html
<fjh> bryan notes that should use strings in BONDI case as well, since URI can change with versioning even if capability constant
<wmaslowski_> fjh:
<Suresh> we have keep in mind that Widgets P&C spec uses "feature IRI"
<wmaslowski_> bryan_sullivan: At this stage it is better to concentrate on capabilities
<fjh> suggest we focus on permissions / capabilities in this case, not sure distinction of these levels and complexity are helpful now
<fjh> ACTION: fjh to update features to use strings for BONDI, add text regarding features/capabilities [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/08/18-dap-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-256 - Update features to use strings for BONDI, add text regarding features/capabilities [on Frederick Hirsch - due 2010-08-25].
<wmaslowski_> fjh:
<fjh> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2010Aug/0059.html
<wmaslowski_> fjh: proposal to represent ruleset in another format, seems feasible/someone ot work on it
<fjh> I suggest we can defer this until we have agreement on rulesets
<darobin> new contacts API
<wmaslowski_> wmaslowski: therea are some issues to be solved. But i can go further with formal draft.
<wmaslowski_> ACTION: wmaslowski to make a formal proposal for integration of forms and contacts. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/08/18-dap-minutes.html#action04]
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - wmaslowski
<wmaslowski_> ACTION: wmaslowski_ to make a formal proposal for integration of forms and contacts. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/08/18-dap-minutes.html#action05]
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - wmaslowski (Action created manually, see ACTION-258)_
<fjh> illka notes draft is almost ready for FPWD
<wmaslowski_> Mohammed: New changes in capture
<Zakim> AnssiK, you wanted to comment on SysInfo and serializing async API calls get() and monitor()
<AnssiK> http://dev.w3.org/2009/dap/contacts/#methods
<wmaslowski_> AnssiK: What happens if you call get/monitor when previous call havent finished
<bryan_sullivan> q
<wmaslowski_> AnssiK: Do we do the same as in Contact ie. call error callback in that case
<darobin> "If a current find(), save() or remove() operation is pending a response, and the method was invoked with a non-null errorCB argument, invoke the errorCB with a PENDING_OPERATION_ERROR code. "
<AnssiK> http://dev.w3.org/2009/dap/system-info/#widl-SystemInfo-get
<AnssiK> http://dev.w3.org/2009/dap/system-info/#widl-SystemInfo-monitor
<AnssiK> "If a current find(), save() or remove() operation is pending a response, and the method was invoked with a non-null errorCB argument, invoke the errorCB with a PENDING_OPERATION_ERROR code. "
<AnssiK> above is from Contacts API
<wmaslowski_> bryan_sullivan: I think we should follow the same pattern
<darobin> ACTION: Richard to define what goes on for concurrent calls to find() when there is no error callback (and step three also needs to define that); then report to group so we can do the same to SysInfo get [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/08/18-dap-minutes.html#action06]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-257 - Define what goes on for concurrent calls to find() when there is no error callback (and step three also needs to define that); then report to group so we can do the same to SysInfo get [on Richard Tibbett - due 2010-08-25].
<fjhlurker> ACTION-258?
<trackbot> ACTION-258 -- Wojciech Maslowski to make a formal proposal for integration of forms and contacts -- due 2010-08-25 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/258
<fjhlurker> ScribeNick: wmaslowski_
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