17 Aug 2010


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laurent_lefort_cs, michael, +44.190.865.aaaa, Andriy, Arthur, vincent
Simon, Kevin, Raul, Sumita, Cory, David, Krzysztof


<laurent_lefort_cs> Previous: http://www.w3.org/2010/08/11-ssn-minutes.html

<laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/43337/SSN-XG-summer/

<laurent_lefort_cs> Scribenick: Andriy

Update (sync) on alignment to DOLCE

Michael: There is a DOLCE pattern for describing stimiuli...
... Putting into the alignment: sensors, observations, systems
... other parts (capabilities, etc...) in progress

Wrap up of changes made to the SSN ontology

Laurent: Done: adding role composition axioms
... Confusion between system life time and device life time

<laurent_lefort_cs> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-ssn/2010Aug/0010.html


<laurent_lefort_cs> Andriy: The property procedure relies the Observation to the Sensor? Could we have better name? e.g. observedBy

<laurent_lefort_cs> Laurent: procedure in O&M refers sometimes to the sensor and sometimes to the method

Laurent: Role composition chains require an order to be defined. Imposes a view point on a relation between Deployment and System...


Options: deployedSystem o onPlatform --> deployedOnPlatform vs hasDeployment o deployedOnPlatform --> onPlatform

Michael: First option gives more flexibility between Deployment and Platform
... Second option gives more flexibility between System and Platform

<Vincent> +q

Vincent: Can several systems on the same platform?

Laurent: Yes, it is possible
... relation between System and Platform is more likely to be fixed...
... Is it possible to start from Platform?

<michael> +q

Michael: deployedOnPlatform gives a temporary link
... Option 2 or maybe not having a direct link between Sensor and Platform?

Laurent: Should the topic be deferred for later discussion?

<laurent_lefort_cs> Yes, need to back this with examples

<laurent_lefort_cs> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-ssn/2010Aug/0009.html

<Arthur> It also would be good to have an up to date graphic of this part of ontology

Laurent: madeObservation as a reverse of procedure - maybe a name change needed as well


Michael: Change observes between Sensor and Property into canObserve...

<Vincent> +q

Michael: use "observe" between Sensor and Observation

Laurent: Is it possible to reuse some DOLCE terms?

<laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/SSN#Observation

Michael: No suitable options from DOLCE...

<laurent_lefort_cs> References from Jano et al: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Work_in_progress#Stimuli-centered_ontology

Laurent: Should be deferred to a later point
... Namespace change to a PURL-based one
... One option: redirecting a purl url to the source document
... Also, link to the documentation can be defined
... purl uris can be used for examples too.


<michael> feature is the knife

<michael> property is its movement

<laurent_lefort_cs> Andriy: rewriting his example with the new version

<Arthur> the link to a specific anchor (#sensor) does not work for me through redirection: http://purl.org/NET/ssnx/ssn#Sensor

<Arthur> I am using safari 5.0.1 on a mac

<Arthur> it works with the direct link: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/SSN#Sensor

<laurent_lefort_cs> MUO http://purl.oclc.org/NET/muo/muo#BaseUnit

<Arthur> no, I also end up at the top of the page

<laurent_lefort_cs> Should get you to here: http://idi.fundacionctic.org/muo/muo-vocab.html

<michael> just takes me to top of page

Same for me

<michael> same for all the ones on that page

<laurent_lefort_cs> Andriy: My sensor has 4 different modes of measurement - How do I define it?

identification of the "how to" questions which should be documented (on the wiki / in the XG report).

<laurent_lefort_cs> ACTION: Andriy to provide "bullet point" list of steps to document [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/08/17-ssn-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-43 - Provide "bullet point" list of steps to document [on Andriy Nikolov - due 2010-08-24].

<laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/File:Ssn.xml

<laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/images/3/36/Ssn.xml

<laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/SSN

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: Andriy to provide "bullet point" list of steps to document [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/08/17-ssn-minutes.html#action01]
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