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<laurent_lefort_cs> Previous: http://www.w3.org/2010/08/11-ssn-minutes.html
<laurent_lefort_cs> Scribenick: Andriy
Michael: There is a DOLCE pattern
for describing stimiuli...
... Putting into the alignment: sensors, observations, systems
... other parts (capabilities, etc...) in progress
Laurent: Done: adding role
... Confusion between system life time and device life time
<laurent_lefort_cs> Andriy: The property procedure relies the Observation to the Sensor? Could we have better name? e.g. observedBy
<laurent_lefort_cs> Laurent: procedure in O&M refers sometimes to the sensor and sometimes to the method
Laurent: Role composition chains require an order to be defined. Imposes a view point on a relation between Deployment and System...
Options: deployedSystem o onPlatform --> deployedOnPlatform vs hasDeployment o deployedOnPlatform --> onPlatform
Michael: First option gives more
flexibility between Deployment and Platform
... Second option gives more flexibility between System and Platform
Vincent: Can several systems on the same platform?
Laurent: Yes, it is
... relation between System and Platform is more likely to be fixed...
... Is it possible to start from Platform?
Michael: deployedOnPlatform gives
a temporary link
... Option 2 or maybe not having a direct link between Sensor and Platform?
Laurent: Should the topic be deferred for later discussion?
<laurent_lefort_cs> Yes, need to back this with examples
<Arthur> It also would be good to have an up to date graphic of this part of ontology
Laurent: madeObservation as a reverse of procedure - maybe a name change needed as well
Michael: Change observes between Sensor and Property into canObserve...
Michael: use "observe" between Sensor and Observation
Laurent: Is it possible to reuse some DOLCE terms?
Michael: No suitable options from DOLCE...
<laurent_lefort_cs> References from Jano et al: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Work_in_progress#Stimuli-centered_ontology
Laurent: Should be deferred to a
... Namespace change to a PURL-based one
... One option: redirecting a purl url to the source document
... Also, link to the documentation can be defined
... purl uris can be used for examples too.
<michael> feature is the knife
<michael> property is its movement
<laurent_lefort_cs> Andriy: rewriting his example with the new version
<Arthur> the link to a specific anchor (#sensor) does not work for me through redirection: http://purl.org/NET/ssnx/ssn#Sensor
<Arthur> I am using safari 5.0.1 on a mac
<Arthur> it works with the direct link: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/SSN#Sensor
<laurent_lefort_cs> MUO http://purl.oclc.org/NET/muo/muo#BaseUnit
<Arthur> no, I also end up at the top of the page
<laurent_lefort_cs> Should get you to here: http://idi.fundacionctic.org/muo/muo-vocab.html
<michael> just takes me to top of page
Same for me
<michael> same for all the ones on that page
<laurent_lefort_cs> Andriy: My sensor has 4 different modes of measurement - How do I define it?
<laurent_lefort_cs> ACTION: Andriy to provide "bullet point" list of steps to document [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/08/17-ssn-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-43 - Provide "bullet point" list of steps to document [on Andriy Nikolov - due 2010-08-24].
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