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<trackbot> Date: 21 July 2010
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<scribe> scribe: chrisl
Vlad: any comments?
ChrisL: couple of broken links, sent mail
tal: some formatting issues with code vs tt
jfkthame: fixing them now
vlad: any objections to publication as fpwd?
(none)
Resolved: publish woff spec as a fpwd
<scribe> ACTION: chris publish woff spec [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/07/21-webfonts-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-10 - Publish woff spec [on Chris Lilley - due 2010-07-28].
Vlad: want to set up agenda, ensure we are all on same page for next steps and work items
ChrisL: marking up testable assertions in the spec to check off the test suite
vlad: good idea
<cslye> +1
Vlad: conformance document is a deliverable, not sure if its a separate doc or part of woff spec
ChrisL: we can do it either way
Vlad: in my opinion, for test
suite to be succesful we need some fonts to serve. although its
for any sfnt format, for test purposes at least one format that
must be supported is needed
... dont need to make a decision now but discuss at f2f
christopher: providing fonts, or specifying a mandatory format?
Vlad: both
... need so me fonts converted to woff and converted back; some
text to have woff applied
cslye: so open licensed fonts?
Vlad: need not be a commercial quality font for testing. but we need a mandatory format, for conformance and for testing
ChrisL: obvious answer is Opentype
Vlad: obvious but never mentioned
ChrisL: so a separate spec could say you must support css3, woff, opentype in woff, etc
cslye: so a format is required for conformance testing?
Vlad: and for
interoperability.
... woff on its own, format agnostic, does not give interop
sergeym: would expect this to be a spec requirement. should not require opentype support
Vlad: we can discuss more at
f2f.
... ok lets think about and bring informed opinions to the
f2f
<sergeym> I actually meant this should be test suite prerequisite, not part of the WOFF spec.
Vlad: for f2f meeting we need to
establish a work plan, most important part is identifying
people responsible to do items of work
... so please review the set of deliverables, look for areas
you can contribute
... we have a woff calidator that can be contributed by tal
tal: requires some work, but pretty far along
ChrisL: happy to take lead on test suite
Vlad: good to agree an agenda for f2f
ChrisL: good to start the list of implementations on the wiki so its ready to discuss at f2f
Vlad; need to review spec and identify testable assertions
Vlad: please add your own implementations
cslye: also implementations from outside the group
Vlad: can publicise on www-font
Vlad: good to get public
attention along with fpwd to get good review
... may also get contributors outside the wg
... publicity is good
<scribe> ACTION: chris to ask about a press release [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/07/21-webfonts-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-11 - Ask about a press release [on Chris Lilley - due 2010-07-28].
Vlad: aim is to get lots of
comments
... assume we will use opportunities at typecon. tal, you were
willing to make a presentation?
... john, you mentioned also w3c development process, is that
useful?
john: a brief overview
... what 'web standard' means
ChrisL: panel is which day?
cslye: last i heard from tammye was friday
vlad: not everyone can stay til sunday
<John> John said that, not me. (Last I heard...")
ChrisL: css wg meeting starts on monday so i will leave saturday evening
cslye: presentation materials for typecon - hard copy?
<cslye> That was me. :)
vlad: good to have slides etc and
to view at f2f beforehand
... once conference program is known we will have a better
idea
cslye: up in air, but expecting a
substantial block of time for webfonts panel, may include some
background presentation time
... followed by open discussion.
John: who is moderating the
panel?
... good to get the participants to discuss beforehand, well
worth doing, meet on Thursday
cslye: agree
Vlad: been asked if public can be
present at f2f meeting. not sure if they can join
... we operate in public so it should be ok
ChrisL: observers or contributors?
Vlad: observers
ChrisL: that is fine if we agree to it
cslye: early, so many folks not
around.
... not heard anything more about using the space
(adjourned)
Vlad: probable regrets next week, travelling
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