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Internationalization Core Teleconference

21 Jul 2010

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
addison, richard, david, norbert, andrew, mati
Regrets
Felix
Chair
Addison Phillips
Scribe
Addison Phillips

Contents


<scribe> Scribe: Addison Phillips

<scribe> ScribeNick: aphillip

<David> I' probably only going to be listening in today.

Minutes and Agenda review

Action Items

addison: blurb the -u- extension last call

<scribe> DONE

Aharon: draft text proposal for keyboard language/input locale attribute for DOM3 key events

<scribe> DONE

Norbert: update ticket for httpbis to indicate our WG's position
... update ticket for httpbis to indicate our WG's position

afraid not

Info Share

<David> Quick info share - Kindle has a web browser, but doesn't send "Accept language" when browsing.

I created a patch for validator. nu, which is used for the HTML5 validator. It updates the validation of language tags to constraints of RFC 5646. See some input language tags at http://fabday.fh-potsdam.de/~sasaki/language-tags-checks/languagetags.txt and error messages at http://fabday.fh-potsdam.de/~sasaki/language-tags-checks/result.txt and application of the patch in an experimental versio nof the validator at http://www.w3.org/html/check?doc=http%3A%2F%

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2010Jul/0003.html

richard: ...

<r12a> Discussion about whether <meta charset=utf-16> is, or should be allowed in HTML5. Currently disallowed but I think it should be allowed for visual inspection and because it doesn't harm. http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Jul/0030.html ff

<r12a> This lead to a discussion about whether XML requires a BOM for utf-16 documents, which lead to suggestions from Sam Ruby and others that we consider restricting XHTML5 to UTF-8 encoding only. Sounds a nice idea in some ways, but I'm not sure we can. http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Jul/0046.html ff

richard: in other news...
... don't forget that TPAC 2010 now open

<scribe> ACTION: addison: double check and forward TPAC announce if needed [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/07/21-core-minutes.html#action01]

meeting times

richard: question? why do we meet on half hour?
... overlap with CSS so fantasai often can't attend

<David> Reason was to avoid other clashes

richard suggests 5 PM GMT

Polyglot

addison: thanks richard for posting our comments

Felix: FYI, the RDFa-working group is also discussing the "case" topic of some attribute values, looking in the "polyglot" document. See this thread http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2010Jul/thread#msg82 and the current state of discussion at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2010Jul/0122.html .

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2010JulSep/0034.html

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2010JulSep/0037.html

richard: got hold of wrong end of stick ;-)
... suggesting editorial change
... also martin gave a good explanation in his response

<scribe> ACTION: richard: respond to HTML WG on polyglog issue 7 endorsing our editorial change [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/07/21-core-minutes.html#action02]

case in CSS 2.1

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2010JulSep/0031.html

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2010JulSep/0022.html

any objections to using ASCII case-insensitive to Unicode case fold for :lang argument comparison?

richard: possibly CSS3 Selectors for filtering?

<r12a> CSS3 Selectors is in PR http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/PR-css3-selectors-20091215/#lang-pseudo

de-Latf-DE doesn't match range de-DE

de-DE matches de-DE-1901

<r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/tests/tests-html-css/list-selectors

<r12a> actually this is more useful http://www.w3.org/International/tests/tests-html-css/tests-selectors/results-css-lang

Closing IRI Everywhere

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2010JulSep/0023.html

addison: propose that we be okay with this

http://www.w3.org/TR/leiri/

richard: would that be a replacement to the LEIRI note? Or replacement of references in XML specs to LEIRI with references to IRI?

AOB?

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: addison: double check and forward TPAC announce if needed [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/07/21-core-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: richard: respond to HTML WG on polyglog issue 7 endorsing our editorial change [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/07/21-core-minutes.html#action02]
 
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