Mobile Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference

Mobile Web Application Best Practices

Francois: The document was published as a 2nd last call working draft on the 13th of July.
... It includes the changes we agreed on. We've asked people to review the document again. We've removed 3 BPs; not expecting substansive changes.

<francois> fd's email on MWABP

Francois: We're in good shape. We need a few more implementation reports.
... I'm trying to get in touch with a few mobile developers for BP implementations. We need the developers to submit the implementation reports.
... We received 2 last call comments last week. They look minor, but we'll need to address them. We may wait until the end of the review period to address them all.

<francois> BPWG comments mailing-list

Francois: Comments shoudl be submitted to the comments mailing list.

CT

Jo: We're still looking for implementation reports.

<francois> seanp: still working on that. Need to talk to marketing. Will let you know next time, hopefully.

Charter extension

Francois: We've been extended. The charter now runs to end of Oct. 2010. The director says we should not count on another extension. I don't think we really want that anyway. We don't want to delay BP2 anymore.

Jo: When does the review period end?

Francois: Review period ends 6 Aug.

Jo: Agree with not having another extension. We'd have to get everything done by then. We should put together a timetable.

<jo> ACTION: Jo to formulate action plan with Francois and Dan [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/07/20-bpwg-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-1062 - Formulate action plan with Francois and Dan [on Jo Rabin - due 2010-07-27].

<francois> BPWG Roadmap

Francois: I updated the roadmap. It is linked from the charter. I've listed the 2 remaining steps. Need PR by Sept. if we want to be done by Oct.

Jo: Topic: Summer break
... Need to be back by summer break by late Aug.

Francois: I'll be back by Aug. 24th.

Jo: [Garbled]
... We need Dan back by the 10th.

Francois: We don't need a call next week.

Jo: No call on July 27th, no call on Aug. 3rd, a call on Aug. 10th chaired by Dan, the 17th is unclear, and we'll need to be back by Aug. 24th.

OK with me.

<EdC> Ok with me.

<francois> +1

<adam> +!

<adam> +1

Issues and Actions

<francois> ACTION-1034?

<trackbot> ACTION-1034 -- François Daoust to investigate about opportunities to promote mobileOK with the European Commission -- due 2009-12-18 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/1034

<jo> ACTION-1042?

<trackbot> ACTION-1042 -- Sean Patterson to do his best to encourage his colleagues to allow some time to be spent on CT test suite -- due 2010-03-09 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/1042

<francois> francois: investigated internally. Not much we can do without support from other members. Happy to do it otherwise.

<francois> close ACTION-1034

<trackbot> ACTION-1034 Investigate about opportunities to promote mobileOK with the European Commission closed

<jo> close ACTION-1034

<trackbot> ACTION-1034 Investigate about opportunities to promote mobileOK with the European Commission closed

<jo> close action-1042

<trackbot> ACTION-1042 Do his best to encourage his colleagues to allow some time to be spent on CT test suite closed

<jo> close action-1048

<trackbot> ACTION-1048 Give the Israeli's a ping ref their email on MWABP closed

<jo> ACTION-1049?

<trackbot> ACTION-1049 -- Sean Patterson to come back to the group by next call with a yes/no on writing some challenge tests for CT. -- due 2010-05-25 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/1049

<jo> close ACTION-1049

<trackbot> ACTION-1049 Come back to the group by next call with a yes/no on writing some challenge tests for CT. closed

<jo> ACTION-1052?

<trackbot> ACTION-1052 -- Daniel Appelquist to investigate CT implementation report -- due 2010-06-29 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/1052

<jo> ACTION-1054?

<trackbot> ACTION-1054 -- Jo Rabin to see with Adam about CT implementation report -- due 2010-06-29 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/1054

<jo> close ACTION-154

<trackbot> ACTION-154 Send a response to Ville karinen by 1/26 closed

<jo> close ACTION-1054

<trackbot> ACTION-1054 See with Adam about CT implementation report closed

<jo> ACTION-1055?

<trackbot> ACTION-1055 -- François Daoust to see with Jérôme about CT implementation report -- due 2010-06-29 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/1055

<jo> ACTION-1058?

<trackbot> ACTION-1058 -- Jo Rabin to ask dotMobi for an implementation report on ct -- due 2010-06-29 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/1058

<francois> close ACTION-1058

<trackbot> ACTION-1058 Ask dotMobi for an implementation report on ct closed

<francois> ACTION-1060?

<trackbot> ACTION-1060 -- François Daoust to request a 4 month charter extension -- due 2010-06-29 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/1060

<francois> close ACTION-1060

<trackbot> ACTION-1060 Request a 4 month charter extension closed

<jo> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/issues/open

<jo> ISSUE-301?

<trackbot> ISSUE-301 -- Jo may not be able to devote very much time to this document so if modifications are needed beyond what has been discussed today a further editor is needed -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/issues/301

<jo> clsoe ISSUE-301

<jo> close ISSUE-301

<trackbot> ISSUE-301 Jo may not be able to devote very much time to this document so if modifications are needed beyond what has been discussed today a further editor is needed closed

<jo> ISSUE-302?

<trackbot> ISSUE-302 -- Test suite for CT guidelines: what do we want/need? -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/issues/302

<jo> close ISSUE-302?

<jo> close IISUE-301

<francois> close ISSUE-302

<trackbot> ISSUE-302 Test suite for CT guidelines: what do we want/need? closed

<jo> ACTION-1023?

<trackbot> ACTION-1023 -- François Daoust to kick off work on test suite for guidelines. -- due 2009-11-10 -- PENDINGREVIEW

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/1023

<francois> close ACTION-1023

<trackbot> ACTION-1023 Kick off work on test suite for guidelines. closed

<francois> ACTION-1025?

<trackbot> ACTION-1025 -- François Daoust to try to get replies from commenters of the first last call working draft of CT -- due 2009-11-17 -- PENDINGREVIEW

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/1025

<francois> close ACTION-1025

<trackbot> ACTION-1025 Try to get replies from commenters of the first last call working draft of CT closed

<francois> ACTION-1028?

<trackbot> ACTION-1028 -- Jo Rabin to enact changes resolved today with minimal possible casuistry -- due 2009-12-17 -- PENDINGREVIEW

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/1028

<francois> close ACTION-1028

<trackbot> ACTION-1028 Enact changes resolved today with minimal possible casuistry closed

<francois> ACTION-1029?

<trackbot> ACTION-1029 -- François Daoust to draft responses to reviewers based on resolutions taken during the F2F -- due 2009-12-17 -- PENDINGREVIEW

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/1029

<francois> close ACTION-1029

<trackbot> ACTION-1029 Draft responses to reviewers based on resolutions taken during the F2F closed

<francois> ACTION-1030?

<trackbot> ACTION-1030 -- François Daoust to think carefully about how tests in the CT test suite could be run from mobile phones and report (Web App? Widget? J2ME?) -- due 2009-12-18 -- PENDINGREVIEW

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/1030

<francois> close ACTION-1030

<trackbot> ACTION-1030 Think carefully about how tests in the CT test suite could be run from mobile phones and report (Web App? Widget? J2ME?) closed

<francois> close ACTION-1031

<trackbot> ACTION-1031 Create the initial document that is to contain human-readable descriptions of the tests to implement. closed

<francois> close ACTION-1032

<trackbot> ACTION-1032 Investigate on the possibility to restrict ourselves to a pseudo-code written test suite document for CT. closed

<francois> close ACTION-1033

<trackbot> ACTION-1033 Highlight normative statements that can be automatically tested, and those that will be hard or impossible to test on an automated basis by 2010-01-19 closed

<francois> close ACTION-1036

<trackbot> ACTION-1036 Prepare the implementation report for the CR of MWABP closed

<francois> close ACTION-1037

<trackbot> ACTION-1037 Update the implementation report template based on the discussion, i.e. remove the "fail" column and emphasize that all of the best practices do not need to be implemented, that we're looking into "atomic" feedback on one or two best practices each time. closed

<francois> close ACTION-1044

<trackbot> ACTION-1044 Ping previous reviewers on third last call of CT closed

<francois> close ACTION-1056

<trackbot> ACTION-1056 Ping Openwave about CT implementation report closed

AOB