Provenance Incubator Group Teleconference

16 Jul 2010

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Yolanda Gil
Paul Groth


<trackbot> Date: 16 July 2010

<scribe> Scribe: Paul Groth

<scribe> ScribeNick: pgroth

<paolo> http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ak69UO5fDWWpdDFsZ1J5dFQ2YmNXc3g4Rm1yMHVKblE&authkey=CKH5zZ0K&hl=en#gid=0

paulo: describing the tagging process in mendeley

paolo: 54 papers have been tagged
... is tracking the tagging on a google doc
... url is above

<Christine> Apologies. I had trouble joining the call. The US number hung-up on me. The UK number was invalid.

<YolandaG> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/prov/wiki/Bibliography_Tags

paolo: tagging papers that are untagged "untagged"
... discussing bibdata to publish the tagged papers after tagging process is done

<YolandaG> You are talking about BibBase: http://www.bibbase.org/


yolanda: not many papers tagged for the other scenarios
... need to be able to map the scenarios to relavent work

<paolo> is this the right place to find the cited papers: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/prov/wiki/Related_Work_Across_Scenarios

saying that Related_Work_Across_Scenarios should be a good place to start

paolo: will try to get more statistics about the tags

pgroth: is Related_Work_Across_Scenarios comprehensive?

yolanda: gathered any papers that were mentioned on the wiki
... isn't complete, just a summary of what we have discussed

paolo: there for support on mendeley tagging

yolanda: found it very easy to tag
... was it easy for those who have tagged?

irini: yes

<DGarijo> I found it easy too

yolanda: asked daniel to help with the tagging process
... along with paolo

luc: will get ipaw10 papers when they are collated

paulo: if we add new papers will they create duplicates

paolo: yes
... emphasizes we would like to have high quality references

paulo: trying to create a high quality bibtex to upload additional papers
... additional tags and papers by this coming week

yolanda: go over three scenarios for prioritising papers to tag

<DGarijo> ok

<YolandaG> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/prov/wiki/Related_Work_Across_Scenarios

for NewsAggregatorScenario

yolanda: mostly technology related
... annotating multimedia with semantics might be relevant

paul: add icwsm papers having to do with tracking blogs and retweeting

<Christine> Are you looking for state of the art research/papers re authenticate entity?

paul: watermarking of images

christine: yeah that would be good

<Christine> Okay, I will see what I can provide on that.

yolanda: focus on what most people need
... what do we do if we want to cite something that is not a paper


paolo: let's keep it in mendeley
... it simplifies everything

statistics, etc

yolanda: paolo can you give an example for what to do with these "non-publications" and make it availabe?

paolo: sure

Scenario 2: Disease Outbreak

yolanda: lots of papers relevant to the scenario and not tagged as such
... we didn't make it a requirement, but we should encourage it


<DGarijo> +1

yolanda: the thought is that the scenarios have entry points
... the scenarios were designed to cover these entry points
... we should be able to connect the state of the art to that

paolo: makes sense, but wasn't clear from the instructions

pgroth: should we modify the instructions?

yolanda: yes
... relevant papers to Disease Outbreak
... data integration, database papers

paolo: how broad should the papers be?

yolanda: fairly broad

pgroth: not everything that is relevant has the words provenance in it

yolanda: again emphasizing broadly

<DGarijo> I didn't add that tag since all the papers where about provenance...

yolanda: with respect to the papers to be included

Scenario 3: Business Contract Scenario

yolanda: simon will be away for the next 3 weeks, need someone to take charge of the scenario
... proof, compliance checking

jmyers: electronic notebook records
... haven't done anything with mendeley yet

yolanda: jmyers execused for this week :-)

paolo: log mining
... process mining may be relevent

rules may also be important here as well

Other papers

yolanda: info quality papers
... answering use queries

paolo: query languages

query language papers are very relevent to scenario 1

yolanda: documenting action formulations are relevant to scenario 2

sorry, axiom formulation

yolanda: data integration papers belong to scenario #2

irini: to tag the papers with scenarios

disambiguation of entities map to scenario 1

yolanda: bad to say that "you have to have certain basics"

<Irini> +1 for pgroth

yolanda: identify general frameworks

paulo: to address the problem of people needing only small subsets of provenance, pml2 is broken down in the module

Last section: technologies and standards

yolanda: go over existing standards next week

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