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WAI AU

14 Jun 2010

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Jeanne, Jan, Jutta, +3aaaa, GregP, [IPcaller], Ann
Regrets
Andrew_R., Tim_B., Alastair_C., Sueann_N.
Chair
Jutta Treviranus
Scribe
Jan

Contents


<AnnM> hey

<AnnM> did i screw up the times and miss the meeting?

<AnnM> i can't seem to get on

<AnnM> it's not parsing the conference code

<AnnM> i've tried skype as well as my iphone

<AnnM> and it just keeps asking me to enter the code before hanging up on me

<AnnM> that's what i've been putting in

<jeanne> there were problems with Zakim UK and FR numbers to day.

<jeanne> let me see if they are fixed yet...

<AnnM> oh, ok

<AnnM> ok, back on skype now

1. Discussion of issues that might be addressed before Las Call publication.

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2010AprJun/0068.html

JT: Skip editorial andgo to "Minor"

(2) Adding "Any": "A.3.1.6 Present Keyboard Commands: Authoring tool user interface controls can be presented with any associated keyboard commands. (Level AAA)"

Resolution: Approve change to "(2) Adding "Any": "A.3.1.6 Present Keyboard Commands: Authoring tool user interface controls can be presented with any associated keyboard commands. (Level AAA)""

<jeanne> +1

(1) Adding "Any": A.3.6.1 Save Settings: Any authoring tool display settings and control settings are saved between authoring sessions.

Resolution: Approve change to "(1) Adding "Any": A.3.6.1 Save Settings: Any authoring tool display settings and control settings are saved between authoring sessions."

PROPOSAL: Split "content (web content)" and "Web content properties". Without any other substantive change. Both are already defined terms.

<jeanne> +1

Resolution: Approve PROPOSAL: Split "content (web content)" and "Web content properties". Without any other substantive change. Both are already defined terms.

Removing "A.3.1.3 Keyboard shortcuts are provided."

JS: Has a concern...
... I don't think it is sufficiently covered.
... Providing shortcuts for appliucations is not typically part of conventions
... I've read Microsoft's - they don't require them

AM: Not sure that all keyboard shortcuts would be included

JR: AC says he would like to keep something about mechanisms to get to edit areas and menus

JT: Maybe we can put some wording around it re: authoring functions.

JR: Maybe its a level AA to make keyboard navigation more efficent and edffective but need be careful to make wording objective

JT: Efficiency and effectiveness should be measurable

GP: Efficiency not always

JT: But can measure by actions

GP: Can't always - often tab order is up to do developer judgement

JR: Maybe use structure of UI?

JT: Irrespective of structure...key point is what functions are needed for editing

JR: Authoring might not be even the primary purpose

GP: Maybe regardles of what I want to do is there an effective way of doing it

JR: What about any ability to navigate functions by keyboard access that is not simply linear

GP: There isn't one testable criteria

JT: Yes when create acces systems for keyboard users we do this
... The question is how do we apply this during dev of tool.
... One way is to allow user to analyze their own use
... But that's not practical for every developer

JR: That's what I was trying to do.

JT: But that makes it too complex and hard to explain.

JR: It's "Bybpass Blocks" from WCAG
... Because accesskey is broken on the web.

JT: OK but in content many more links than iun authoring

JR: Not sure about that DW has many functions

JT: Right but commonly used is much smaller set

JR: But unfortunately on a web abased tool you couldn't do this
... What about rewording bypass slightly

JS: What's wrong with what we have?

JR: I agree.

JT: I'm worried about adding a new UI convention

JR: But its not - it;s like toolbar bypass in TinyMCE

Resolution: Keep A3.1.3 as it is and instead add some support text to the Implementing document that addresses show bypass link blocks might be used to do this in web-based tools

(2) Rewording: B.2.2.1 Check Accessibility (WCAG Level A): If the authoring tool provides authors with the ability to add or modify web content so that any WCAG 2.0 Level A Success Criteria are violated, then accessibility checking for those success criteria is provided. (Level A)

B.2.2.1 Check Accessibility (WCAG Level A): If the

authoring tool provides authors with the ability to add or modify web

content so that any WCAG 2.0 Level A Success Criteria are violated, then

accessibility checking for those success criteria is provided. (Level A)

JT: Likes new wording...easier to understand conditions

GP: Yes

<jeanne> +1

Resolution: B.2.2.1 Check Accessibility (WCAG Level A): If the authoring tool provides authors with the ability to add or modify web content so that any WCAG 2.0 Level A Success Criteria are violated, then accessibility checking for those success criteria is provided. (Level A)
... B.2.2.1 Check Accessibility (WCAG Level A): If the authoring tool provides authors with the ability to add or modify web content so that any WCAG 2.0 Level A Success Criteria can be violated, then accessibility checking for those success criteria is provided. (Level A)

<jeanne> +1

2. If any changes have been made - Last Call vote.

<gpisocky> +1

JT: Let's get everyone's vote here...then others later.

JR: Agrees.

<gpisocky> I agree to last call

JS: Yes

AM: I agree to Last Call

JT: Yes

Summary of Action Items

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