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lovely... french number does not pick up the conf code :(
<rboyce> hi
grmph...
calling in with skype is not working... :(
it does not pick up the conference code
<ericP> not an unusual problem
<ericP> the dtmf coming from skype's dialout is borderline
I have used it so far without problems
ericP: ok, will try again
Zakim: help
Zakim: ??P18 is egonw
cool: )
student of David Wild
working in chem2bio2rdf
I could scribe here too
<mscottm> scribenick: egonw
ok: )
egonw will cover on IRC
agenda 1. ontology alignment initiative
Francois Scharffe joined us earlier about OAEI
<mscottm> http://oaei.ontologymatching.org/
also see these minutes: http://www.w3.org/2010/05/26-hcls-minutes.html (I think)
they are considering LODD data for next years challenge
not just aligning classes, but also on instance similarity
so looking for many instances
possible outcome: we get better aligned and cleaned up data
Scott asked Egon about thoughts
(indeed :)
<mscottm> egon: would like to use InChi identifiers for the linking
<mscottm> scott: notes from last time: http://www.w3.org/2010/05/26-hcls-minutes.html
<mscottm> egon: compare based on similarity in addition to identifiers
SCOP
<mscottm> ..can use BLAST to compare protein sequences
http://scop.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk/scop/
chEMBL and SIDER are both available as RDF within LODD
drug activity and side effect
we can further look at how SIDER is already hooked up with other LODD data sets...
SIDER: http://www4.wiwiss.fu-berlin.de/sider/snorql/
chEMBL: http://rdf.farmbio.uu.se/chembl/snorql/
<mscottm> janos: DrugBank also has InChi
<mscottm> egon: Prefer to use InChi number to InChi key
InChI preferred over InChIKey
DrugBank: http://www4.wiwiss.fu-berlin.de/drugbank/snorql/
at this moment I do not see InChI in SIDER yet
so, we are to define a data set for the challenge where the people will work on...
instead of use + Francois actually competing in the challenge...
mscottm: sorry, that I misunderstood that
so, that would imply that we could not do such linking ourself...
we'll follow up on this next time
we need confirmation that Francois is participating, rather than organizing
janos is working on a LOD database of ... what? (did not get it exactly)
<janos> http://link.informatics.sunysb.edu/sparql/
using CAS registry number to link to, e.g. DrugBank
<mscottm> janos: linking RxNorm to DrugBank
mscottm: thanx
janos: has access to the latest version
disease info recently added
different licenses for different parts
level 0:
public domain, can republish
egonw asks about CC0 waiver... might be possible...
janos will look at it for the RDF translation
<janos> http://link.informatics.stonybrook.edu/rxnorm/RXCUI/88249
much data is openly available
but egonw likes to know what that means, but that is (as usual) not completely clear
janos: no worries about that... common situation :)
mscottm: asked about the content
janos was looking at linking to DailyMed but could not find a common identifier
there seems to be ID in the source data to do this
<mscottm> mscottm: might want to check with Anja to see if she has a script handy: Anja Jentzsch <anja@anjeve.de>
discussion ongoing on active compound vs medication
talk about using generic names as linking...
that was richard
== rboyce?
<mscottm> yes
<rboyce> rdb20@pitt.edu
http://link.informatics.stonybrook.edu/rxnorm/RXAUI/687117
http://link.informatics.stonybrook.edu/rxnorm/ATN#SRC J Pharm Biomed Anal 1995 Feb;13(2):155-8
egonw asks about using citation information to link LODD data sets
suggestion to use PubMed ...
for linking LODD to literature
many databases have references to literature
chEMBL does, so does rxNORM
what about curation...
talk about boosting confidence of data...
also, data from various LODD sources from 1 paper with same generic link, might complement each other
<rboyce> http://sourceforge.net/projects/loddproject/forums/forum/910130/topic/3719723
rboyce invites people to comment on that question
rboyce: http://www.linkedin.com/in/boycer <- that's you?
mscottm: refers rboyce to anja who is not here today
<rboyce> yes
<rboyce> out of date
:)
next item on agenda:
<scribe> new data sources?
what are best practicaes for sources for us to report our LODD data sets?
<rboyce> http://ihi2010.sighi.org/
mscottm: asks if there are data updates?
rboyce: mentiones the sighi link for a recent ACM conf paper on their work
that's an abstract; acceptence reported in August
<rboyce> scott - can I cc you in an email to anja? what is your address?
<mscottm> mscottmarshall@gmail.com
egonw mentions CC0 data source for malaria research recently released...
see: http://blog.rguha.net/?p=591
"GSK released an approximately 13,000 member compound library (using the CC0 license) that had been tested for activity against P. falciparum."
mscottm: moving to the outreach agenda item
http://chem-bla-ics.blogspot.com/2010/05/three-acs-rdf-sessions.html
there is talk about a special issue for that meeting
LODD has a talk at that meeting
<janos> This is should be correct link for the Sparql endpoint http://link.informatics.stonybrook.edu/sparql/
janos: have you seen SNORQL?
<mscottm> http://ws.adaptivedisclosure.org/search/
snorql is a web frontend to sparql end points
some of the links today were snorql... easier to use than the Virtuoso SPARQL end point
<mscottm> http://hcls.deri.org/sparql
mscottm: shows AIDA, but it does not seem to work with the data from janos
<mscottm> janos: mentions RelFinder
mscottm: closed meeting, thanx all
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