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<scribe> scribe: Andi
<davidb> 1 min
<davidb> passcode is 2274?
CS: adding ARIA roles changes
element into a different element
... 2nd table, DOMACTIVATE is a good example
... DOMACTIVATE may be renamed to CLICK
... CLICK is also in the table, treating it the same as DOMACTIVATE
above comments are explanations on the events.doc document Cynthia has been working on
CS: events don't get fired if have a <div> changed into a button
DB: if has event handler on it,
it should fire an event
... fire accessibility event for click
CS: when change role, there are implications beyond changing the role and creating an accessible object
right column is Cynthia's thoughts - need feedback from David
David's review is complete and the text looks good. Close 7118.
edits look good to Cynthia and David. Close 7119.
Issue 59 - same as 7019 - second table should address
Issues 86 & 87 are tied to bug 8464
valuemin, valuemax, and valuenow all default to 0
CS: why not undefined? at least for valuemax?
DB: think 0 was the common value that worked for all APIs
AS: UAIG has no special case processing for aria-disabled
CS: could we add text to beginning of Actions section
DB: or leave this to ARIA 2.0?
CS: talk to MichaelC about
"things we think are the right way to go but will not be
implemented in the mainstream browsers"
... maybe we could make it a "should"?
add text to Actions section "if aria-disabled is true, UA's should not expose. If exposed, ATs should ignore."
Bug 9656 is tied to this issue: http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9656
change bug 9656 to P1
identify each HTML specific section
CS: put "required owned elements" in the UAIG glossary
<davidb> filed bug 9878
DB: were looking for a way for AT
to change some states
... don't really support this notion
... implementation problems from author end to respond to these kinds of things
... would require author to think about how to respond to aria attribute changes
... not the right guy for this action because don't agree with it
<scribe> ACTION: David to go back to PFWG to either close 130 as won't fix or get it assigned to someone else. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/06/08-aapi-minutes.html#action01]
<scribe> ACTION: Cynthia to send e-mail to Mark asking for explanation of this action [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/06/08-aapi-minutes.html#action02]
CS: sounds like writeable
property issue got closed because it's not in the ARIA
... should this be deferred to ARIA 2.0?
DB: in ARIA practices, section 8 - there is a list of ARIA states and properties that can be modified by AT
CS: if AT changes a property
using the accessibility API, what should the UA do?
... should the modification be reflected back into the DOM
... if not, the DOM and AT will be out of sync
<scribe> ACTION: David to look at actions 130 and 248 and figure out what to do with writeable properties [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/06/08-aapi-minutes.html#action03]
Cynthia thinks she is done.
<scribe> ACTION: Cynthia to mark 442 as "pending review" [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/06/08-aapi-minutes.html#action04]
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