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MAWG F2F

01 Jun 2010

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Attendees

Present
joakim, veronique, pierre-antoine, thierry, werner
Regrets
Raphael, Florian, Chris, Wonsuk, Daniel, Felix, Tobias
Chair
Joakim
Scribe
wbailer

Contents


<joakim> I am calling in ..

<scribe> scribe: wbailer

<scribe> chair: joakim

<joakim> http://www.w3.org/2010/04/26-mediaann-minutes.htmlhttp://www.w3.org/2010/05/18-mediaann-minutes.html

previous minutes

accepted

topic next meeting

scheduled for Jun 8

<joakim> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/open

action items

close action-249

<trackbot> ACTION-249 Come up with an ontology proposal on the basis of the Task Force Meeting in the 7th MAWG F2F closed

tobias sent mail regading this: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Jun/0003.html

action-258 to be done after lc

action-259 pending

action-260 pending

last call process

joakim: api doc ready for lc
... ontology doc not finished
... wonsuk will finish by tomorrow
... will be published Tue 8th
... thierry will be document contact person
... for both docs

test suite

joakim: we have difficulties getting test suite started
... we should start with something not too complex
... would be good to have results before summer

last call process

(going back to this topic as thierry joined)

thierry: started to work on docs to make them ready for lc
... for api doc: removed script, used output
... use proper css, added proper uris and status
... one issue pending: currently using css level 3, checker uses 2.1
... contacted publication team about how to proceed on this issue

joakim: last call announcement (single sentence description)

thierry: use abstract or subset of abstract
... to be shown in public area of w3c pages
... can be modified at any time
... no urgency right now, using the abstract should be fine
... ontology document
... considered it to be done, but wonsuk needs to make some updates
... waiting for updates, if updates are not there by today, we need to postpone to next tuesday
... impact on lc review: must be at least 4 weeks
... planned to end review period on Jul 5
... might need to be extended
... we can send a prior announcement to the groups from which we expect feedback
... ask if planned review deadline is ok for them
... ping groups during review period
... most of the groups will send comments at end of review period

joakim: do we need to have the namespace doc?

thierry: namespace doc for latest version (shortname)
... not sure if namespace doc for ontology is needed

veronique: would be good to make ontology available

thierry: if we use uri for a namespace, something needs to be there
... e.g. a page saying this is the namespace, and has links to schema, etc
... stable uri for document is latest version, this is there

<Vero> http://www.w3.org/2006/03/wn/wn20/instances/synset-component-noun-3.rdf

veronique: we should use similar approach for ontology

<Vero> example of namespace hosted on the W3C side

thierry: can we postpone this to next version?
... namespace in ontology doc resolves to a page
... namespace is reserved

<pchampin> but it serves HTML as text... :-/

thierry: can be modified later is needed

joakim: tables has different cell colors
... maybe wonsuk is fixing this

thierry: will take another look at this

joakim: tables should be striped

thierry: looks fine in firefox
... could be css problem, need to check

joakim: at f2f, we wanted to find automatic way to include mapping tables into ontology doc, now it has been done manually

thierry: xslt stylesheet could be used for this purpose

<scribe> ACTION: thierry to provide xslt stylesheet for including tables into ontology doc before candidate rec publication [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/06/01-mediaann-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-261 - Provide xslt stylesheet for including tables into ontology doc before candidate rec publication [on Thierry Michel - due 2010-06-08].

<scribe> ACTION: thierry to correct css of tables in ontology doc [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/06/01-mediaann-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-262 - Correct css of tables in ontology doc [on Thierry Michel - due 2010-06-08].

close action-258

<trackbot> ACTION-258 Ask thierry about javascript solution for automatically integrating mapping tables into ontology doc closed

thierry: is it right that it is in the minutes to go to lc?

joakim: we voted for lc if the changes on the wiki page are done; this are done now

thierry: take another vote to agree to lc?

we had agreed to move to LC under the condition that the issues at http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/wiki/Issues_for_LC are resolved

<pchampin> +1

these issues are now resolved

resolution: both documents can be moved to lc

<tmichel_> +1

<joakim> +1

<Vero> +1

<tmichel_> tmichel@w3.org

<tmichel_> Resolution: API and Onthology moving LC

thierry: short explanation of process after going to lc
... we should get comments at least from wgs we have dependencies with
... we may get feedback from thepublic
... will be tracking this comments, there is a tool called lc tracker
... for each comment it gives the status
... each comment will be discussed, thierry will send repsonse to commentor
... commentor can agree to response or ask for more explanation
... until final agreement
... in some cases it might not be possible to reach agreement
... group may disagree with comments, needs to be marked as not fulfilled
... not fulfilled comments need to be discussed with director
... it is up to the director to accept decision of group or not
... tim berners lee or a representative of him will do this
... lc tracker is tool for tracking status of each comment, propose to use this

thierry offers to do tracking of the comments

thierry: tracker will be opened next week, will present it in telco next week or in 2 weeks
... all comments need to be answered to exit lc

<scribe> ... new version of document including agreed comments has to be issued

<scribe> ACTION: thierry to provide info on hotel and logistics for upcoming f2f [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/06/01-mediaann-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-263 - Provide info on hotel and logistics for upcoming f2f [on Thierry Michel - due 2010-06-08].

[meeting adjourned]

<pchampin> bye bye :)

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: thierry to correct css of tables in ontology doc [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/06/01-mediaann-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: thierry to provide info on hotel and logistics for upcoming f2f [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/06/01-mediaann-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: thierry to provide xslt stylesheet for including tables into ontology doc before candidate rec publication [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/06/01-mediaann-minutes.html#action01]
 
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