W3C

HTML5 Testing Task Force

01 Jun 2010

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
krisk, phl, gsnedders
Regrets
Chair
Kris
Scribe
plh

Contents


Check for any bugs on approved tests

Kris: none

Review Current Tests Posted To List For Approval

Kris: no test to be approved.

Discuss HTMLVideoElement Test

--> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/html/raw-file/tip/tests/submission/Microsoft/video/video.htm Video test

Kris: if someone want to do relative source, we'll need a small video in the repository

plh: i'll make one

<krisk> gsnedders did you take a peek at the video test?

plh: in the test itself, you're manipulating the video using the DOM. are we fine with that?

gsnedders: I was going to send feedback to the list

Kris: are we fine with formats?

<krisk> yes

gsnedders: I can help generate the webm version

plh: I'll send you a link to the mjpeg original

<krisk> This one doesn't manipulate the DOM, though it does a document.write

<krisk> Though it would be possible (another test) to create a video element and then set the src attribute in a simalar manner

<krisk> gsnedders are you going to send some feedback on the test format to the list?

<krisk> I think that would be good, since unlike some other tests the video/audio are going to require some human to verify

plh: what are you supposed to see if the video is not playing?

gsnedders: the first frame at 00:00:00

<krisk> So then do we want to add an image to say what the video should look like?

<krisk> Then maybe the same could be down at a given time?

gsnedders: you could do a ref test

plh: I can add the first frame

gsnedders: add also an other frame at one second as well.

kris: you can only do approximation, due to video compression, even if you target a key frame

gsnedders: that wouldn't work indeed, unless you get the frames from the video itself, in each format

plh: I can make a video with a single frame

gsnedders: make the entire video red apart from one frame

<krisk> You can make it start red and change to green at a specific frame/frames.

plh: ok, I'll make one

kris: you can make a similar one for the video, with one beep at a particular time

plh: sure

<krisk> sure

<krisk> any more comments on that agenda item?

<krisk> my only comment would be to get this approved once we have this agreed upon.

<krisk> next agenda item http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=HTML+WG&component=testsuite&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=incl

<krisk> wrong copy/paste..

<krisk> next agenda item - Status Update for pushing tests from hg -> tests.w3.org/html5/

Status Update for pushing tests from Hg to tests.w3.org/html5/

plh: I haven't been able to talk to the individual in charge of that

<krisk> I've also started to take a peek at james async test example

plh: I looked at the HTML5 spec and I don't think we're going to be able to generate automatic assertions out of it
... we'll need to by hand and write test assertions

<krisk> thanks - seems like the best approach is to just create them from the spec and get agreement

Chris: Kris

<scribe> Meeting: HTML5 Testing Task Force

Summary of Action Items

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