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Kris: none
Kris: no test to be approved.
--> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/html/raw-file/tip/tests/submission/Microsoft/video/video.htm Video test
Kris: if someone want to do relative source, we'll need a small video in the repository
plh: i'll make one
<krisk> gsnedders did you take a peek at the video test?
plh: in the test itself, you're manipulating the video using the DOM. are we fine with that?
gsnedders: I was going to send feedback to the list
Kris: are we fine with formats?
<krisk> yes
gsnedders: I can help generate the webm version
plh: I'll send you a link to the mjpeg original
<krisk> This one doesn't manipulate the DOM, though it does a document.write
<krisk> Though it would be possible (another test) to create a video element and then set the src attribute in a simalar manner
<krisk> gsnedders are you going to send some feedback on the test format to the list?
<krisk> I think that would be good, since unlike some other tests the video/audio are going to require some human to verify
plh: what are you supposed to see if the video is not playing?
gsnedders: the first frame at 00:00:00
<krisk> So then do we want to add an image to say what the video should look like?
<krisk> Then maybe the same could be down at a given time?
gsnedders: you could do a ref test
plh: I can add the first frame
gsnedders: add also an other frame at one second as well.
kris: you can only do approximation, due to video compression, even if you target a key frame
gsnedders: that wouldn't work indeed, unless you get the frames from the video itself, in each format
plh: I can make a video with a single frame
gsnedders: make the entire video red apart from one frame
<krisk> You can make it start red and change to green at a specific frame/frames.
plh: ok, I'll make one
kris: you can make a similar one for the video, with one beep at a particular time
plh: sure
<krisk> sure
<krisk> any more comments on that agenda item?
<krisk> my only comment would be to get this approved once we have this agreed upon.
<krisk> wrong copy/paste..
<krisk> next agenda item - Status Update for pushing tests from hg -> tests.w3.org/html5/
plh: I haven't been able to talk to the individual in charge of that
<krisk> I've also started to take a peek at james async test example
plh: I looked at the HTML5 spec and I don't think
we're going to be able to generate automatic assertions out of it
... we'll need to by hand and write test assertions
<krisk> thanks - seems like the best approach is to just create them from the spec and get agreement
Chris: Kris
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