HTML Weekly Teleconference

27 May 2010


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<trackbot> Date: 27 May 2010

<MikeSmith> we seem to be having a lot of Zakim problems today

<MikeSmith> or Zakim responding very slowly

<rubys> anybody else hear noise?

<janina> yes

<janina> Sounded like someone on a street--as a car/bus/truck just passed by

<Mark> Mark is 732368..., I am on mute so not making noise

<Mark> Mark from AT&T is on the phone (muted)

<rubys> Not seeing plh: anybody willing to scribe?

<scribe> scribe: adrianba

<scribe> scribenick: adrianba

1. ACTION items due by Thu May 27

<pimpbot> Title: {agenda} HTML WG telecon 2010-05-27 from Sam Ruby on 2010-05-26 (public-html-wg-announce@w3.org from April to June 2010) (at lists.w3.org)

ACTION items due by Thu May 27


<trackbot> ACTION-29 -- Philippe Le Hégaret to follow up on the idea of a free-software-compatible license for a note on HTML authoring -- due 2010-05-27 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/29

<pimpbot> Title: ACTION-29 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)


<trackbot> ACTION-178 -- Philippe Le Hégaret to contact the various chairs/co-chairs to resolve the use of the text/html mime type -- due 2010-05-27 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/178

<rubys> action-29?

<trackbot> ACTION-29 -- Philippe Le Hégaret to follow up on the idea of a free-software-compatible license for a note on HTML authoring -- due 2010-05-27 -- OPEN

<pimpbot> Title: ACTION-178 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/29


<trackbot> ACTION-179 -- Philippe Le Hégaret to set automatic copy of HG to www.w3.org -- due 2010-05-27 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/179

<pimpbot> Title: ACTION-179 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)

rubys: plh doesn't seem to be here

2. Recent Issues activity

Recent Issues activity


<trackbot> ISSUE-89 -- Remove Section 4.12 Common Idioms without dedicated Elements -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/89

<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-89 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)


<trackbot> ISSUE-92 -- Re-write the Table section to remove extraneous material, and provide cleaner description -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/92

<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-92 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)

rubys: we have counter proposals


<trackbot> ISSUE-103 -- XML escaping in iframe/@srcdoc -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/103

<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-103 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)


<trackbot> ISSUE-107 -- Politics in fallback example for plugin usage -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/107

<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-107 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)

rubys: will actually issue a call for consensus - no counter proposals


<trackbot> ISSUE-86 -- HTML5 relaxes Atom requirement on atom:id stability -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/86

<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-86 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)

rubys: we will put a note out that we have consensus to remove this feature

3. Items that close this week (by Fri May 28)

Items that close this week (by Fri May 28)


<trackbot> ISSUE-9 -- how accessibility works for <video> is unclear -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/9

<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-9 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)

rubys: discussed at the TF

<janina> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Media_Accessibility_Requirements

<pimpbot> Title: Media Accessibility Requirements - HTML accessibility task force Wiki (at www.w3.org)

janina: document is substantially finished
... still vetting for completeness in case of missing or mistaken content
... will be a little language tweaking
... in addition we're ready to move to the next step: gap analysis of candidate suggestions
... little too soon to know how long this will take
... my sense is we should know that after the gap analysis
... HCG group interested in this
... will spend their next call looking at this


<trackbot> ISSUE-109 -- change ARIA section title and add extra text about use of ARIA -- raised

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/109

<Julian> change proposal for ISSUE-109: http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/ariasection (see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010May/0390.html)

<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-109 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)

<pimpbot> Title: ChangeProposals/ariasection - HTML WG Wiki (at www.w3.org)

rubys: now have a change proposal
... ISSUE-111 through 115 no change proposals for these


<trackbot> ISSUE-111 -- What does input.@required mean for @type = checkbox? -- raised

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/111

<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-111 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)


<trackbot> ISSUE-112 -- negative keywords-not meta tags -- raised

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/112

<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-112 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)


<trackbot> ISSUE-113 -- add a preventable forced-fragment method -- raised

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/113


<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-113 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)


<trackbot> ISSUE-114 -- link tag: rel: associate pages about the same organization across many sites for searches without a canonical page and despite a confusingly indistinct name -- raised

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/114

<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-114 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)

<trackbot> ISSUE-115 -- link tag: rel: associate pages about the same person across many sites for searches without a canonical page and despite a confusingly indistinct name -- raised

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/115

<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-115 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)

New Issues This Week

rubys: none

WG Decision Policy update

rubys: maciej is away at the moment

Discuss Survey results

rubys: ready to post decisions today on the first 3


<trackbot> ISSUE-66 -- image analysis heuristics -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/66

<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-66 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)


<trackbot> ISSUE-90 -- Tighten the focus and allowable content in the figure element -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/90

<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-90 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)


<trackbot> ISSUE-91 -- Re-focus and tighten definition of the aside element -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/91

<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-91 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)

rubys: will try to get to the next few in the next few days

Heartbeat Working Drafts & First Public Working Drafts

rubys: i have seen no objections to publishing any of these
... have seen posts of support
... will therefore be proceeding

Upcoming deadlines

rubys: already talked about iSSUE-9 and ISSUE-111 through 115

Task Force Reports

rubys: A11Y - anything else to say beyond ISSUE-9

janina: no

rubys: Testing Task Force

<krisk> Meet last week as planned - agenda/irc log at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-testsuite/2010May/0022.html

<pimpbot> Title: RE: HTML Testing Task Force Conf Call Agenda 5/18/2010 from Kris Krueger on 2010-05-27 (public-html-testsuite@w3.org from May 2010) (at lists.w3.org)

krisk: met last week as planned

<krisk> The list has had the most traffic ever for a month (23 posts)

krisk: most posts ever to the mailing list this month
... plh uploaded some video files
... into the repository

<krisk> We have created a sample video test case using these videos http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/html/raw-file/tip/tests/submission/Microsoft/video/video.htm

<pimpbot> Title: HTMLVideoElement (at dvcs.w3.org)

krisk: now creating video tests
... meeting again next week

rubys: janina, about canvas

janina: good news and bad news: bad news is deadline will slip
... good news is everyone is participating in the discussion
... we didn't have engineering feedback from apple but we had this late last week
... the group is working to bring things into sync
... but this is going to take a few more weeks

rubys: let's discuss this in 2 weeks from now

janina: yes, then we should have an idea of how long it will take if it is not done

Other Business

rubys: any takers?

Scribe for next meeting

rubys: any volunteers?


rubys: thanks everyone

<rubys> Thanks Adrian!

Summary of Action Items

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