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<trackbot> Date: 25 May 2010
<laurent_lefort_cs> trackbot, status
<laurent_lefort_cs> scribenick rgarcia
<laurent_lefort_cs> Topic Project point
<kerry> scribenick: rgarcia
<kerry> i can hear
<laurent_lefort_cs> Project status: open (and closed) items, listing of OWL products
<dongmei> hi,sorry for late
Laurent: We are working in
different products related to the ontology: the ontology and
its extensions, other related ontology products, examples, and
... any comment?
Kerry: What is the rationale behind this?
Laurent: To provide an overview
of what we are doing
... by defining sub-products of the ontology deliverable
... or products external to the group but that are related to it
<kerry> i can hear michael
<krp> the third was the time over which the "deployment" is installed
Michael: Sensor networks are
systems attached to a platform
... they are not platforms
Kerry: I want to have deployed systems that are composed of other deployed systems
<krp> I think a Deployed System can comprise of several Systems (it's a sublass); each Deployed System can have several Deployments (the events)
<krp> So I think it covers your case, Kerry
<kerry> I meant to ask -- what is the arrow between deployment and deployed systm?
The hasDeloyment property
<krp> I assumed hasDeployment was offset a little and it was that
<krp> Though I'm not totally clear why DeployedSystem has to exist over System
<krp> Isn't a System that hasDeployment implicitly deployed - does it need to be explicit?
<kerry> Seems to me that it need not be explicit
<krp> it would seem less confusing in Kerry's case where a system that's deployed contains another system that in itself has previously been deployed
<krp> so yes, I suspect it need not be explicit
<krp> and would be tidied for redeployed and subsumed systems
<kerry> I think we decided to remove
<kerry> the "deployed system" class
<kerry> perhaps krp could speak to that?
<Arthur> Deployment in this draft describes the deployment-time, what about deployment location either absolute or relative?
<kerry> sounds right to me
<kerry> and for symmetry -- shouln't there also be an end_deployment location?
<krp> so does System have a location? or is it a property that makes a DeployedSystem explicit?
Michael: DOLCE:process does not have a location, the participants of the process do have a location
<krp> Kerry - yes (and kelsey suggested commissioned and decommissioned as clearer terminology for the deployment event)
<scribe> ACTION: Michael to analyse the representation of location for next meeting [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/05/25-ssn-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-26 - Analyse the representation of location for next meeting [on Michael Compton - due 2010-06-01].
<kerry> my phone just went dead!
<kerry> please look at the link
<kerry> I will type quickly
<kerry> I propose that we have a very simple approach
<kerry> to capture the "definition" of a "term" in our ontology
<kerry> where "term" means "class", and probably don't bother with properties
<kerry> we use the annotation proprty
<kerry> "rdfs:comment: for the English definition of the intention of the term
<kerry> and we use he annotation propprt dc:source
<kerry> fto indicate (in free text) where we got it from.
<kerry> I can't hear discussion ... if there is some perhaps you could summarise for me?
<laurent_lefort_cs> rgarcia: we need to document the properties too
<laurent_lefort_cs> laurent (to rgarcia): do you have an example of documented properties?
<laurent_lefort_cs> rgarcia: no but it would be similar using comments and dc:source
Michael: properties are also described in the specifications
Laurent: Will give a talk about the SSN-XG next Thursday
<kerry> laurent -- i think i should have an action to fix up the wiki page according to waht was decided but i'm not sure what was decided.
<kerry> I'll catch you thursday.
<kerry> no -- friday probably.
<kerry> ok -- monday!
<laurent_lefort_cs> rssagent, generate minutes
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