Web Applications Working Group Teleconference

21 Apr 2010


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Shepazu, [Microsoft], Olli_Pettay


<trackbot> Date: 21 April 2010

<smaug> just a minute

<scribe> scribe: Travis

<scribe> scribeNick: Travis

Issues review

Current editor's draft dated 4/20/2010: http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/DOM-Level-3-Events/html/DOM3-Events.html

shepazu: Many issues resolved in this draft.
... after review, we will be ready to publish (Working Draft)
... would like to go to LCWD in first two weeks of May.

smaug: I see setCapture still. Looks to have issues...

<shepazu> http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/DOM-Level-3-Events/html/DOM3-Events.html#events-event-type-setCapture


smaug: Recommend not taking these for D3E -- many unresolved issues...

shepazu: [discusses possible use cases]

I am also in favor of postponing this to a future spec.

scribe: many of the use-cases can be handled via the capture phase of the event model. Granted, capturing events over an iframe is not possible, however, we have had known security exploits as a result of this feature in IE.

magnify reference misleading?

We all resolve to remove it because it might lead folks to think that it's spec'd somewhere...

shepazu: OK. removed.

trusted/untrusted events?

shepazu: I think we've already resolved this...

FocusEvent relatedTarget

Speced as the eventTarget recieveing focus...

<shepazu> http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/DOM-Level-3-Events/html/DOM3-Events.html#event-type-focus

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">

<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">


<title> Untitled Page</title>




<input id="myCheck" name="checky" type="checkbox" />



var check = document.getElementById("myCheck");

check.addEventListener('click', function(e)


alert('preventing the default action');


}, false);




(That's a sample code that "undoes" the check action after the fact, via preventDefault.)

(This is related to the issue in default actions.)

shepazu: Great. I'll clean this up and keep the wording as-is.

Back to relatedTarget/focus event type...

IE9 is currently reporting the same object for relatedTarget as target. We can adjust this if necessary...

smaug: Yes, I don't see why we need to have them both point to the same place...

shepazu: OK. I'm changing relatedTarget to be 'null' in cases where the relatedTarget and target are the same in the FocusEvent interface.

Focus event types interaction (Issue 102)

<scribe> ACTION: shepazu to coordinate with WAI with issues of focus. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/04/21-webapps-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-529 - Coordinate with WAI with issues of focus. [on Doug Schepers - due 2010-04-28].

<shepazu> http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/DOM-Level-3-Events/html/DOM3-Events.html#event-type-wheel

(back to focus/blur topic... I sent the mail re: this topic on Feb 8, 2010, but it may have been rejected from www-dom. I just resent it to www-archive.

wheel event, button value

Firefox: it appears to be 0 (which is the default when no value is assigned)

Opera: seems kinda random 0's, 1's, and 2's reported...

shepazu: Should there be an associated button?

I like just having button and 'buttons' be zero.

smaug: me too.

shepazu: OK. Done.

<shepazu> http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/DOM-Level-3-Events/html/DOM3-Events.html#keyset-DeadKeys

dead key values during composition

<shepazu> http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/DOM-Level-3-Events/html/DOM3-Events.html#key-values

shepazu: Simple resolves...

JavaScript escaped characters

All the issues listed seem more like a Note than an issue.

shepazu: Agree.

Might even get its own section, a la "Considerations for key values in other language bindings"?

shepazu: Do we need to worry about C/Java interactions?
... the implementation will just need to handle it.
... I'm going to convert these to notes.
... I think that's the last major issue!

smaug: When the draft is updated, and before publication, please send out a mail.

<shepazu> trackbot, end telcon

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: shepazu to coordinate with WAI with issues of focus. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/04/21-webapps-minutes.html#action01]
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