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<trackbot> Date: 14 April 2010
<shepazu> http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2006/webapi/DOM-Level-3-Events/html/DOM3-Events.html
<shepazu> http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/DOM-Level-3-Events/html/DOM3-Events.html
<smaug_> scribe, smaug_
<shepazu> scribenick: smaug_
Travis: going through issues
... there is still magnify event
shepazu: we should clarify focused and active element
Travis: it all depends on whether the browser is focused or no
<smaug> testing
<smaug> scribenick, smaug
<smaug> scribenick: smaug
shepazu: I'm not quite sure whether relatedTarget should be null in some cases in FocusEvent.relatedTarget
Travis: this is about the security issue focusing iframe for example
... or if relatedTarget comes anywhere outside the document
shepazu: writing email to the mailing about relatedTarget
... I took magnify out of the spec
<shepazu> http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/DOM-Level-3-Events/html/DOM3-Events.html#interface-EventTarget
<shepazu> http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/DOM-Level-3-Events/html/DOM3-Events.html#example-mousemove-click
shepazu: the latter link points to example which isn't quite right
Travis: you can't register something unless it is eventtarget
... trusted (implementation) mouse events fire only on elements
... but scripts may create mouse events and fire them on text nodes
smaug: so remove "text nodes cannot be registered as event listeners"
Travis: in the big blue table, those proximal event target types are for the "trusted events"
<Travis> trusted of type boolean, readonly, introduced in DOM Level 3
<Travis> Used to indicate whether this event was generated by the user agent (trusted) or by script (untrusted). See trusted events for more details.
shepazu: should I define hysteresis
Travis: yeah
<shepazu> define different headers in the List of DOM3 Event Types (esp. Trusted Proximal event target types)
<shepazu> also, explain in eventListener interface that though every node typ can be an event target, different trusted event types can only be registered and have as targets specific node types
Travis: about compositionend
... it is currently cancelable
... if it is cancelled textInput isn't fired
... in our implementation compositionend fires in few different cases: user commits the composition, or if IME looses focus etc
... so IME tells when it is "done" and we fire compositionend
... the feedback I had, cancelling compositionend cannot "undo" composition
smaug: cancelling textInput doesn't make
Travis: if you have textInput listener, you can always know the previous value
smaug: just store the old value somewhere
shepazu: no sense to have textInput cancelable
smaug: make it non-cancelable
Travis & shepazu yep
Travis: cancelling compositionend doesn't prevent textInput from firing
i.e. doesn't undo the composition
<shepazu> http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/DOM-Level-3-Events/html/DOM3-Events.html#event-type-compositionend
Travis: currently only compositionstart is effectively cancelable
shepazu: for next week I'll try to get rid of as many issues as possible
... then we'll publish
resolution: publish new DOM 3 Events working draft
ArtB: I would get not yet LC
er
guess
shepazu: once again I mentioned to XForms wg about DOMActivate that they haven't sent all the feedback
... I'd like to have LC before mid May
<shepazu> trackbot, end telcon
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